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Careful with the ANTISEIZE!

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Bob

10-20-2007 11:54:15




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A fellow asked me to help him with this IH "A" that hasn't run for a couple of years since he restored it, and fired it up ONCE, letting it run a few minutes. He shut it down, and it would never start again. He has monkeyed with it for over 2 years, even pulling the front bolster and timing cover off to check the timing!

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The problem was, he had put quite a bit of anti-sieze on the spark plugs, then run it just long enough for the excess to drip down into the cylinders and get splattered all over the porcelain insulators on the spark plugs, shorting them out. They were COATED with the silvery-graphitey mess!

I blasted them, cleaned them THOROUGHLY of any remaining media, and it STILL wouldn't FIRE, NOT EVEN ONCE!

I removed the plugs, bleasted and cleaned tehm again, then heated the tips with a tirch, to burn them clean.

It fired right of. The guy couldn't believe how quickly, after all the stuff he tryed over a couple of years.

I told him to put it completely together, then start an and run it 'til it warms up, and HOPEFULLY burns any of the remaining anti-seize out of the cylinders.

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Ron in Nebr

10-20-2007 19:07:05




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 Re: Careful with the ANTISEIZE! in reply to Bob, 10-20-2007 11:54:15  
One possible thing that might have happened is maybe he put it on the threads in the head instead of on the threads on the plug. That'd for sure push some down into the cylinders. If it was going to be used, it should just be a light dab on the threads of the plug itself... I've never used it myself, even on aluminum heads....although I have dealt with aluminum heads that had galled threads on vehicles I've been asked to replace the plugs on...probably a good idea to use it in that application.

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Bob

10-20-2007 20:59:32




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 Re: Careful with the ANTISEIZE! in reply to Ron in Nebr, 10-20-2007 19:07:05  
I've seen this happen a number of times. The sealing washer is next to the body of the spark plug, so ANY amount of anti-sieze on the thread to amount to anything at all will seep down through the threads, and find it's way to where heat and the explosions at each power stroke will spatter it all over the tip of the spark plug.



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rockyhawaii

10-20-2007 17:48:31




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 Re: Careful with the ANTISEIZE! in reply to Bob, 10-20-2007 11:54:15  
There is an anti-seize formulated just for spark plugs, but you have to ask for it.



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Butch WI

10-20-2007 16:34:25




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 Re: Careful with the ANTISEIZE! in reply to Bob, 10-20-2007 11:54:15  
Around here we call anti-sieze "herpes in a can" because once you get it on you you can't get it off! Ha Ha!



Butch



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Red Dave

10-20-2007 16:22:09




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 Re: Careful with the ANTISEIZE! in reply to Bob, 10-20-2007 11:54:15  
I've been using anti-sieze on sparkplug threads since the early 1970's. I've never had that happen to me. He must have really slobbered it on the plugs to do that.



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Steven f/AZ

10-20-2007 15:45:45




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 Re: Careful with the ANTISEIZE! in reply to Bob, 10-20-2007 11:54:15  
Anti-seize is designed for spark plug threads, especially engines with aluminum heads. The dis-similar metals will weld together over time without it.

That person must have used an obscene amount of it to foul the plugs out!



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Bob

10-20-2007 15:54:05




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 Re: Careful with the ANTISEIZE! in reply to Steven f/AZ, 10-20-2007 15:45:45  
I've seen it happen before. It doesn't take MUCH. A couple of falls ago, a guy and his son towed an old tandem truck over to the shop, with the big 549 gasser that refused to start after they changed plugs. Same deal, too much anti-seize.



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Mike CA

10-20-2007 15:16:01




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 Re: Careful with the ANTISEIZE! in reply to Bob, 10-20-2007 11:54:15  
I've been putting it on the hardware I'm putting back on. I would have never though to have put it on the spark plugs though. That seems to be asking for trouble.



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williamf

10-20-2007 14:07:03




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 Re: Careful with the ANTISEIZE! in reply to Bob, 10-20-2007 11:54:15  
And not just plugs. I've never put it on anything without getting it all over myself. I don't know how that happens. Still use it, though.
Wm



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