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I've searched - Any tricks on Super A fan belt removal?

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SteveNH

10-22-2007 19:00:23




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I"ve looked through the forum and saw that it is not fun... Loosen the nut on the back of the fan assembly and have at it. I tried and kind of failed. It is somewhat loose now, the assembly is as low at it will go, but I am afraid I am going to put something through the radiator trying to coax the belt off. Belt is in bad shape, not even sure if it is the right size and is going to be replaced anyway.

Does a new belt (right size belt) go on somewhat easy? if so I will just cut this one off. What belt size do I need? If not, is there a way to do this without taking the radiator and fan assembly off?

Do I need a cogged belt or just a regular belt I can get in the mower section at TSC? Same with the generator, I have the right size for the generator (allegedly) but it is cogged, not sure if it matters.

Your forum has been great help by the way,
Steve

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Keith-OR

10-23-2007 09:27:32




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 Re: I've searched - Any tricks on Super A fan belt removal? in reply to SteveNH, 10-22-2007 19:00:23  
Steve, I took the CIH parts # for Son's SC to my local NAPA dealer and they had the belt the next day for me.

CIH Parts manual shows Part for Super A belt #46869D

Keith & Shawn (Special Olympic Champion)



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SuperA-Tx

10-23-2007 06:48:37




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 Re: I've searched - Any tricks on Super A fan belt removal? in reply to SteveNH, 10-22-2007 19:00:23  
Sure is a pain to get to those belts! I did mine while I had my radiator off so it wasnt to hard on mine. If you have too you can take the radiator loose from the top support and lean it out some to give you some extra room.

I orderd my belts from OEM, I think they cost about $12 each. I didnt measure them but they were the correct size. So if you cant get the belts local you can always order them. Cut the old one off and take it in with you. Might as well replace both belts while your at it. Neither of my belts are cogged now but the old alt belt I took off was.

Just as hard getting it back on and getting it tight. I had to get a friend to help and used a block of wood and a longer piece of wood to use as a lever to get the right tension.

You might also want to check the oil in that fan hub. Theres a little screw on the side you add oil in then turn it on the side and let the oil run out until it stops.

If you do have to take the radiator off you can get new hoses at tractor supply. Removing the radiator isnt a fun job either but you know if your fixing things up you might want to go all the way and flush the radiator out and get the new hoses.

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Hugh MacKay

10-23-2007 06:25:56




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 Re: I've searched - Any tricks on Super A fan belt removal? in reply to SteveNH, 10-22-2007 19:00:23  
Steve: If you slide that fan hub to bottom, with shaft loose you can take the belt over one blade at a time. If the fan assembly bolt is rusted from years of non adjustment, you may be better off removing the radiator cleaning the bolt up good, install a new deep nut and put never seize on bolt. The deep nut helps in both tightening and loosening as you can get on it with a wrench on the back side and not rely on the machined groove in the mount, to hold the nut. I changed all mine years ago, just ground corners off nut where it fits that groove. Much easier to loosen if you can turn the nut.

CaseIH will sell you the right belts for same price and they will give many more years of service without trouble. Four items I always go to CaseIH for are ignition parts, carburator parts, return stretch springs and belts. While the aftermarket may be fine for some items, far to often they try to make one fit all makes on these items.

When I bought my 140 it had a set of points that only made contact on 10% of contacts. Obviously not for that distributor. I've generally seen a lot of this with aftermarket parts. Generally they work when new but don't have longeviety. Think about it, items like springs are often just now being replaced for the first time. I know I still have some 50 year old brake or clutch pedal springs on mt SA and 130.

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ScottyHOMEy

10-22-2007 19:07:24




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 Re: I've searched - Any tricks on Super A fan belt removal? in reply to SteveNH, 10-22-2007 19:00:23  
Steve, you don't need notched belts.

HAve you tried slacking off the genreator brace to see if that gives you a little more wiggle to play with? If it was the right size to start with, the fan belt ought to slip right off the pulleys (easier doing top first) and then finessed out over the fan. Generator belt( if you don't have a water pump, meaning it's shorter than the one giving you trouble now) will take a little more finaglin' (like goin' over one fan blades at a time), but ought to come off the same way.

Worse comes to worse, put some corrugated cardboard over the back of your radiator to protect it and thread the fan shaft all the way out of the nut and drop the fan to get your belts off.

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