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OT-- Crane Accidents

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El Toro

10-24-2007 09:20:44




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I received these pictures in an email and no one knew where they were taken. They dumped two cranes into the water. Hal

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don g

10-24-2007 14:40:47




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 Re: OT-- Crane Accidents in reply to El Toro, 10-24-2007 09:20:44  
It really might be a fake photo but if you want to see real ones look under cranemishaps.com I haul transformers for a utility , up to 75000 pounds, so i am very familiar with cranes and everything in this photo is wrong.All i can say is if anything in this photo is for real then out of country crane operators need to watch good old united states union trained operating engineers at work.



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T_Bone

10-24-2007 11:02:36




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 Re: OT-- Crane Accidents in reply to El Toro, 10-24-2007 09:20:44  
Hi Hal,

I too have seen this photo several years back and it just has to many things wrong in the photo.

I've rigged many cranes, both hydro and stick cranes, and I have yet seen where the operator would try and pick 1/10 the load rating from the side of the crane. It just isn't done as it can't be done.

Then there's the headache ball (the lack of) right up against the end of the boom as the load is clearing the water. From here the only thing the operator could do is boom up thus would have to lower the headache ball while booming up. As rigged this creates even a heavier bind on the sea wall.

The headache ball is missing. This is a counter weight for the lifting cable. Without the headache ball the cable will not feed out from the spool and the cable would then rat nest on the spool, just like line on a fishing reel does.

The load center of gravity is all wrong for where the rigging is attached. The load would be more vertical had it been picked this way.

The crane is too small for the water weight it has to pick and mush less not considering the weight of #1 crane.

I've was the master rigger on a 250ton stick crane where the jib boom broke. It was the crane owners fault for exceeding the load rating of the jib boom (a smaller lighter weight rated boom). That was a 11,000lb load on a 250ton rated crane. Were very lucky that no one got hurt.

So I call BS on the photo.

T_Bone

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neblinc

10-24-2007 10:46:21




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 Re: OT-- Crane Accidents in reply to El Toro, 10-24-2007 09:20:44  
Here is more info on the story Hal.

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Randy



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Mike CA

10-24-2007 10:10:01




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 Re: OT-- Crane Accidents in reply to El Toro, 10-24-2007 09:20:44  
Yup, second crane is fake. It's funny this is still going around e-mail years later.



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HughB

10-24-2007 09:50:39




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 Re: OT-- Crane Accidents in reply to El Toro, 10-24-2007 09:20:44  
A google search will show that the pic of the second crane falling into the water is a fake. This happened in Ireland. A little too much ale probably. The pic dates to 2004.



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Wardner

10-24-2007 09:44:05




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 Re: OT-- Crane Accidents in reply to El Toro, 10-24-2007 09:20:44  
I'd have to say Springfield. Homer Simpson was running both cranes.

I thought late model cranes were computer controlled to prevent such tip-overs. Perhaps they can't calculate submerged loads.



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rhouston

10-24-2007 09:38:58




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 Re: OT-- Crane Accidents in reply to El Toro, 10-24-2007 09:20:44  
We have seen this before. The second crane accident is a fake. Notice the white dingy comes and goes between the last two shots. Also the red car. The gent in the white shirt on the pavment would have been under the crane in order to be where he is in the last picture. The orange come in the foreground is also missing in the last pic.



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scotty

10-24-2007 09:34:39




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 Re: OT-- Crane Accidents in reply to El Toro, 10-24-2007 09:20:44  
Afternoon Hal, Two things come to mind. First, if there was some type of railing there or curb then this whole episode is moot ! Second, the operators of the crane should know the capacity of their equipment and how to use it properly !


scotty

ps Talk about a bad day !!!



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El Toro

10-24-2007 09:47:22




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 Re: OT-- Crane Accidents in reply to scotty, 10-24-2007 09:34:39  
I have this in an email and if anyone wants to see all the pictures send me an email. Hal



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