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best place to get seals?

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26Red

10-29-2007 09:47:22




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What's the best and cheapest route to get seals for my H? I usually buy them direct thru the local dealer, but was wondering if I can save some money buying through a industrial bearing supply house? Any suggestions?

I'm going thru the brakes, transmission, and pto.




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neblinc

10-29-2007 11:44:25




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 Re: best place to get seals? in reply to 26Red, 10-29-2007 09:47:22  
Either should work, the new seals bought from CaseIH have the Chicago Rawhide part number and not the CaseIH number.

Randy



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Bob

10-29-2007 21:51:38




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 Where have you been??? in reply to neblinc, 10-29-2007 11:44:25  
NO such thing as "Chicago Rawhide" anymore!

SKF bought them out some time ago, and everything is SKF boxes, anymore!



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Bob M

10-29-2007 11:14:42




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 Re: best place to get seals? in reply to 26Red, 10-29-2007 09:47:22  
I've had good luck with the local Kaman distributor. He can cross the IHC number from the old seals to National or Chicago Rawhide equivalents. Depending on the seal Kaman's price is typically 30% - 50% less than at the CIH dealer.

Seals not in stock at Kaman can usually be delivered the next day.



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26Red

10-29-2007 11:42:13




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 Re: best place to get seals? in reply to Bob M, 10-29-2007 11:14:42  
So will the IH number out of the parts catalog(online) cross reference? or do I take the number off the seal on the tractor? (provided I can read after it's been removed).



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Bob M

10-29-2007 12:04:18




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 Re: best place to get seals? in reply to 26Red, 10-29-2007 11:42:13  
On both my tractors (SH and SM) the part numbers in the tractor parts catalog match the IHC part numbers I find stamped on the OEM seals when I remove them.

I phone the IHC part numbers to the counterperson at Kaman - he crosses them with the Chicago or National part numbers.

Note: Many (most?) of the modern seals will be about 1/2 the thickness of the IHC OEM leather seals. This is not a problem. I've had excellent luck installing new seals so the outer seal face is flush with the housing it fits into. Or if there's a wear groove worn in the shaft from the old seal simply position the new seal in far enough the seal lip rides on an unwork area of the shaft.

(Some people like to install TWO seals in place of the single original thick seal. My experience however has been this is unnecessary).

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neblinc

10-29-2007 10:08:57




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 Re: best place to get seals? in reply to 26Red, 10-29-2007 09:47:22  
I priced out seals for my H at the dealer and was really shocked that they were at least douple, and on one seal triple the price.

You can do a cross lookup here

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Type in the Farmall H part number, and it will give you the correct CR seal.

And get the part numbers for most of them.

The bearing place I went to even crossed those numbers to a better seal.

Randy

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K-Mo

10-29-2007 09:57:05




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 Re: best place to get seals? in reply to 26Red, 10-29-2007 09:47:22  
Most automotive stores or seal supply stores can convert an IH number. You just have to shop around for the price you will accept.
The last time I bought seals from CaseIH, I paid through the nose. The CaseIH seals had National and CR numbers. The same seals with National and CR numbers from local autoparts store was less than half. On the other hand, past experience with bearings, the dealer price is better.
Anything to keep you guessing and life a challenge.

K-Mo

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glennster

10-29-2007 09:55:04




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 Re: best place to get seals? in reply to 26Red, 10-29-2007 09:47:22  
the old berry bearing, now motion industries is a good source, also napa can get a lot of em too.



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26Red

10-29-2007 11:33:52




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 Re: best place to get seals? in reply to glennster, 10-29-2007 09:55:04  
Cool, I one of those places is near me.



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