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Farmall Dry Sleeve Puller

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TMonton

11-04-2007 06:33:28




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I have managed to acquire two Farmall H series tractors. This is all that is left of my fathers dairy farm in Midwest Michigan.

I had left the farm and went to college. I have been living in Indianapolis on the north side for the past 15 years. In that time the cattle, the farm and all that land including my parents, are now gone.

This summer I trailered the first tractor down here and have begun the adventure of restoration to a 1954 Farmall Super H Stage II. I have determined this to be a two year project and my goal is a parade ready work of antique art. Red Rules !

I have been searching for a decent sleeve puller all summer. Anything I could find retail was ridiculously priced.

I have seen in the archives where you gentlemen have such items and I am willing to rent this if there is an offer still open someplace.

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Bob Kerr

11-05-2007 10:54:40




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 Re: Farmall Dry Sleeve Puller in reply to TMonton, 11-04-2007 06:33:28  
I just moved from the north side of Indy to way out western IN. Anyway I know a few IH people up there who might have something you need. Let me know on that. I am not sure if this will work or not since I have never pulled a sleeve out of a tractor, but I did pull out a dry sleeve out of an old hit and miss engine once with a torch and a "cooling agent". Liquid wrench now has a freeze spray in a can that might work. When I put the sleeve back in. I heated up the cyl in a gas grille and put the sleeve in the freezer overnight. It slid right in! If you can heat the cyls with a torch and freeze the sleeves they might just pop right out , even by hand! Might be worth a shot.

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TMonton

11-11-2007 08:32:45




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 Re: Farmall Dry Sleeve Puller in reply to Bob Kerr, 11-05-2007 10:54:40  
Sure thing Bob ... knowledge is power in my mind. I will accept any information you can offer on anything surrounding these tractors. I just cannot get enough anymore and no one person knows it all.

I put up a web site this weekend as a repository of my efforts and the collective efforts from everyone involved. There also is my email address.
I cannot say enough good about everyone's help I have received here.

Thank you for your response !

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TMonton

11-11-2007 08:36:06




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 Re: Farmall Dry Sleeve Puller in reply to TMonton, 11-11-2007 08:32:45  
Duh ... cut and paste is a goofy thing sometime.

THIS should be the correct link.



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GordoSD

11-05-2007 08:31:37




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 Re: Farmall Dry Sleeve Puller in reply to TMonton, 11-04-2007 06:33:28  
During your restoration you will visit the local IH dealer many times. Get to know the shop guys in there and let them know what you are doing. Local mechanic here lent me a puck, I had it back to him the next day, and all it cost was a little barley pop.

Gordo



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TMonton

11-09-2007 05:28:42




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 Re: Farmall Dry Sleeve Puller in reply to GordoSD, 11-05-2007 08:31:37  
Barley pop !! .. I like those prices. In the world of antiques that is the way things should work in my opinion.



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TMonton

11-04-2007 18:51:45




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 Re: Farmall Dry Sleeve Puller in reply to TMonton, 11-04-2007 06:33:28  
This is good stuff and thank you everyone.

All I really need is to find a machine shop nearby to make the puck. From there a little fabrication and hardware. A throw out bearing will be interesting to find but the rest is simple enough.



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Fancy Farm

11-04-2007 15:35:22




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 Re: Farmall Dry Sleeve Puller in reply to TMonton, 11-04-2007 06:33:28  
I worked off and on for a year trying to get the dry sleeves out of a 354 perkins. I destroyed 2 1 inch sleeve puller rods on one sleeve. I finally got the welder out and ran a bead up both sides of the sleeve and that sleeve pulled right out not by hand but it did pull with no problem.
I used a 6013 on 90 amps and pretty is not a requirement. All you are doing is using the heat to shrink the sleeve a tiny amount. Don't try to weld a pretty bead just get it hot and be happy.
I installed the puller in the sleeve with the puck tightented up to keep the slag out of the lower end of the engine.

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glennster

11-04-2007 13:12:31




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 Re: Farmall Dry Sleeve Puller in reply to TMonton, 11-04-2007 06:33:28  
here are a couple of my sleeve pullers and the pucks. the one on the left is a store bought, the other is home made. i used a thick piece of steel angle iron and welded some square nuts to it so it stands above the deck on the block, a long piece of all thread 7-8 inch to 1 inch, fine thread is better. made a lot of the pucks on a lathe, there are a few pucks in the metal case, notice step cut on edge. step holds puck center in sleeve. third party image
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MN Rick

11-04-2007 08:29:47




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 Re: Farmall Dry Sleeve Puller in reply to TMonton, 11-04-2007 06:33:28  
I made my own years ago. The key to making your own is having the new sleeves bought in advance to get the right dimensions for the die. I used ordinary threaded rod from the hardware store at first, but it is too soft and you have to help things along or the threads will strip. Fastenal has grade 8 fine threaded rod that holds up much better. A scrap drawbar makes a nice bar for across the top and blocks for the sides.

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Jim J

11-04-2007 08:07:44




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 Re: Farmall Dry Sleeve Puller in reply to TMonton, 11-04-2007 06:33:28  
All you need is to get a puller plate built and a shaft to fit in the hole in the center. Then drive the sleeves out. I have an OTC puller from an old IH dealer and I drive out 99% of the sleeves I take out.



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Red Dave

11-04-2007 07:31:22




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 Re: Farmall Dry Sleeve Puller in reply to TMonton, 11-04-2007 06:33:28  
I too have had an eye out for a reasonably priced commercially made sleeve puller for a couple years and haven't found one yet. I made my own for pulling wet sleeves. I suppose you could make one for dry sleeves also, but it would have to be more substantial than mine is.

Some on here have described a method for using a welder to run a bead that makes the sleeve contract and come out by hand, but I haven't tried it myself, so someone else should give you the details of that.

Good luck!

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TMonton

11-04-2007 07:40:38




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 Re: Farmall Dry Sleeve Puller in reply to Red Dave, 11-04-2007 07:31:22  
I have heard the same thing.

Using a wire feed welder, run a bead down the inside of the sleeve. Theory makes me believe it would expand from heat and be even tighter.

But on the flip side, the bead will soften or melt the metal enough to collapse and remove tension. This was a tip from an ole' farmall guy up north.

I am a little weary of doing this against my welding skills. I made this far without breaking or ruining anything. I would just feel better using the right tools.

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