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Value of this 1938 F-20

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Scott Rukke

11-10-2007 15:49:24

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OK here is a totally unrestored (obviously) F-20 that has lots of surface rust and pitting, a cracked intake manifold, welded front steering column and the rims both front and rear are totally shot. the rears are rusted through. The sheet metal is good, gas tank is good. It's a dual tank. Has the belt pulley and surprisingly the motor is NOT stuck. Turns over rather easily. Has a good magneto. There are no visible or obvious cracks or repairs in the block or heads. My biggest concern is the surface pitting. I want something to restore and am not sure how much work, or even how, to fix the metal pitting. The price is $300. Is it worth it or not.

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LenNH

11-11-2007 10:13:33

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Re: Value of this 1938 F-20 in reply to Scott Rukke, 11-10-2007 15:49:24

F-20 and others with that motor type (10-20, 15-30/22-36) were designed to run on kerosene or distillate. The big tank is for the kerosene and the small one (the pipe out the back on the F-20) is for gasoline for starting. Eventually, people got tired of the hassle of kerosene and just burned gas. The original manifolds were made to heat the kerosene or distillate, and are easy to spot--on the F-20, there is a big square part around the middle, to heat the intake, and there is a lever that could be moved to a "cool" position if you wanted to run on gasoline only. Most of these levers rusted fast, and if you ever see one of these manifolds on a tractor (they usually rusted through after 20 years or so, and were replaced by aftermarket manifolds made for gasoline--they're easy to spot, too), you'll usually find the lever rusted in one position or the other. The F-20 had either an upright lever that looked something like a throttle, attached to the left side at the back of the gas tank, or a notched rod on the late models with the variable governor (also controlled by a notched rod).

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Pale Rider

11-11-2007 05:43:18

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Re: Value of this 1938 F-20 in reply to Scott Rukke, 11-10-2007 15:49:24

You couldn't touch a tractor like that for $300 where I live. I wouldn't even blink at the price.

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STEWARTINPA

11-11-2007 00:40:30

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Re: Value of this 1938 F-20 in reply to Scott Rukke, 11-10-2007 15:49:24

Scott where do you live I may have some parts maybe even a manifold I just bought some parts tractors I don't have them home yet to check the manifold maybe next weekend I'm in western PA just off I-80 Thanks Stewart

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Scott Rukke

11-11-2007 10:01:15

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Re: Value of this 1938 F-20 in reply to STEWARTINPA, 11-11-2007 00:40:30

I am in WA State. Do you have an email address? Mine is srukke@comcast.net

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CNKS

11-10-2007 19:30:23

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Re: Value of this 1938 F-20 in reply to Scott Rukke, 11-10-2007 15:49:24

The other problems are a lot worse than the pitting. Remove the rust, sanding, wire wheel, fiber wheel, etc., use a rust converter if there is still rust in the pits. Then use a 2-part body filler in the pits, sand smooth (easier said than done), epoxy prime, sandable surfacer over the epoxy, and topcoat. A LOT of work, but the pits will be covered.

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oldiron29

11-10-2007 16:45:12

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Re: Value of this 1938 F-20 in reply to Scott Rukke, 11-10-2007 15:49:24

Scott, Go to tractor photos look up 1927 regular John R. before and after photos. I no what it is to do one over, but did not try to get all the piting out. But did take it down to bear metal, replace lots of bolts and washers. Seals and gaskets from Gorden Rice in Pa. Most parts can be gotten on Ebay from time to time or guys on here. Most not running tractors I by I will not pay more than $500 for. If you can find another for $300 by it for parts. Good luck

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Nebraska Cowman

11-10-2007 16:09:54

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Re: Value of this 1938 F-20 in reply to Scott Rukke, 11-10-2007 15:49:24

I could sell you a western tractor with very light rust but it is going to cost you a lot more than $300 by the time you haul it home. To me, yeah, it would be worth it. I grew up in NW PA and i do know what rust is. And i know what twisted off bolts and such problems is. No, I would never restore a tractor from a wet climate. But lots of people do and they look nice when they are done.

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glennster

11-10-2007 15:57:45

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Re: Value of this 1938 F-20 in reply to Scott Rukke, 11-10-2007 15:49:24

if the sheet metal is pitted, its not a biggie to fill and sand it. you can skim coat all the metal with body filler or a self seveling filler like icing and sand it smooooo thhh as glass!! nice looking tractor. i'd give 300 for it in a heartbeat.

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Scott Rukke

11-10-2007 15:53:34

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Re: Value of this 1938 F-20 in reply to Scott Rukke, 11-10-2007 15:49:24

Actually it's the exhaust manifold that's cracked. Sorry. Don't know much about the F-20 but this one appears to run on different fuels. Also has road gears.

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Andy Motteberg

11-10-2007 15:53:19

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Re: Value of this 1938 F-20 in reply to Scott Rukke, 11-10-2007 15:49:24

$300 is a good price, I'd like to see you restore it, but It would bring more than $300 in parts.

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