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farmall M--weights vs. fluid

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zooeyhall

11-24-2007 09:10:16




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I am going to have to be replacing the rear tires on my working M. I use it to farm 160 acres and probably the heaviest thing it has to pull is a tandem disk.

Anyways--the current tires have fluid in them and I was thinking about not putting fluid back in when they put the new tires on. I have 4 rear weights that dad took off years ago.

Just wondering if there was any advantage to having fluid in the rears. I am dismayed by how much it corrodes the rims--I am going to have to replace the rims regardless because they have sure gotten rotten.

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GA Dave

11-25-2007 19:30:07




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 Re: farmall M--weights vs. fluid in reply to Ole Sow 53, 11-24-2007 09:10:16  
According to the chart thats per tire. David.



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WHISKEY BENT

11-25-2007 06:57:35




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 Re: farmall M--weights vs. fluid in reply to zooeyhall, 11-24-2007 09:10:16  
90 GALLONS PER TIRE? OR FOR BOTH? THANKS FOR REPLY!



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GA Dave

11-24-2007 19:27:23




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 Re: farmall M--weights vs. fluid in reply to Kevin Meier, 11-24-2007 09:10:16  
According to the chart I have 16.9-38 tires will require 90 gallons. That's over 700 lbs. David.



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WHISKEY BENT

11-24-2007 16:49:03




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 Re: farmall M--weights vs. fluid in reply to zooeyhall, 11-24-2007 09:10:16  
HOW MANY GALLONS OF WASHER FLUID DOES IT TAKE TO FILL A 16.9 38? DO YOU FILL THEM ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP?



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Steven f/AZ

11-24-2007 16:11:58




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 Re: farmall M--weights vs. fluid in reply to zooeyhall, 11-24-2007 09:10:16  
Calcium chloride weighs more.

And it is NOT harmful to the rims if you actually repair the tire when it develops a leak and clean it up. We have tractors that are almost 50 years old and have had chloride since new and the rims look like new when we replace or repair tires.

If weights were the most efficient/cost effective way to weight a tractor, you would definitaly see more tractors with cast weights sticking out past the axles!

Some say beet juice works as well, but again, not as much weight per gallon.

Having said all that, a stock M does not have enough horsepower to need more than a few sets of cast weights, so it is ultimately your preference.

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Allan Lance

11-24-2007 15:07:41




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 Re: farmall M--weights vs. fluid in reply to zooeyhall, 11-24-2007 09:10:16  
Hey guys, I know it isn't International and I apologize for that cuz I'm a red power man at heart but at the AGCO dealership where I work all our new tractors are delivered with wet weighted tired but instead of Calcium we use -45C winshield washer fluid and surprisinly the cost is about the same as calcium except it won't rust your rims, best of luck.



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WRA

11-24-2007 13:47:47




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 Re: farmall M--weights vs. fluid in reply to zooeyhall, 11-24-2007 09:10:16  
fluids in the tires give you better traction in my opinion because the weight is on the tread butit does cause damage to your rims if you do decide to use weights you will see if you have enough traction or not. if not have you considered duals,that also helps with slippage. good luck



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John A.

11-24-2007 12:10:55




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 Re: farmall M--weights vs. fluid in reply to zooeyhall, 11-24-2007 09:10:16  
zooeyhall, Go with the weights! for a number of reasons but the top of the list is when you have a flat,there will be no surcharge on the cost getting the flat fixed. For the Guys having to deal with the liquid. The Surcharge runs in the neighborhood of $75.00. That doesn't count the "out of area" surcharge we get down here, at least for me it is true for I am over 25 miles from a town with a tire service. Hope this helps!
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John A.

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ejr-IA

11-24-2007 10:51:57




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 Re: farmall M--weights vs. fluid in reply to zooeyhall, 11-24-2007 09:10:16  
Go with the wheel weights you will be much better off.Some people disagree but I think fluid robs power.



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John S-B

11-24-2007 10:36:23




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 Re: farmall M--weights vs. fluid in reply to zooeyhall, 11-24-2007 09:10:16  
I don't do much tillage with mine, mostly hay. But when I do have to take off a tire, I can do it myself since I have the cast weights. I would'nt dream of trying that with fluid. Weights are much cheaper than fluid in my book because you don't need to have the tire guy come out with a crane to service it. And unless you have a diesel that's turned way up, I don't think it will be much more of an advantage with fluid given the avg. HP.

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old

11-24-2007 09:16:33




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 Re: farmall M--weights vs. fluid in reply to zooeyhall, 11-24-2007 09:10:16  
Each have there good and bad points. Weights are sort of easy to change out if your real strong that is. Fluid puts the wiehgt right on the tread of the tires not on a cushion of air so I my self feel the fluid works better most of the time. As for as the problem of rim rust I use Wind shield wiper fluid in my tires now days. It will not rust the rims, plus if it does leak it will not kill the grass for years to come and also doesn't freeze. It does cost a little bit more to put in but it you watch you can get it on sale for a little bit more then a buck a Gal.

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