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Gas $$$$ at $4.10

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Coax

11-25-2007 10:35:47




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Always like to stir the pot once in a while so.....

Whats the current wisdom on using E85 Ethanol on our old girls???Anybody tried it at length yet? Just Wondering!




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RN

11-26-2007 14:53:48




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 Re: Gas $$$$ at $4.10 in reply to Coax, 11-25-2007 10:35:47  
Use E85 in 'old' vehicles? 1998(?) was about 1st year for E85 vehicles for sale, 2002(?) was a couple more models generally available- might be off a bit. If your talking 'old' as pre-1990 you will be faceing a bit of parts changing and lower performance on E85 and gas. Couple conversions in Mother Earth didn't seem the best. Best conversion from a hot rod mag was a late 70s big block Chevy engine that use alky fuel drag racer parts and 12/1 compression and stock cam with a wide advance ignition. Builder was around Minn/St Paul area and had drag raced fueler so was used to working with Ethanol/Methanol mixs, had parts and a tow vehicle rebuild project for winter. Vehicle was noted NOT flex vehicle for use with gas OR E85, was mostly straight E85. Vehicle dodged pollution inspection as special fuel user, Minnesota had E85 fuel cheap, and engine had plenty of power and decent economy for towing on E85. Can't remember what magazine- was about July 2005(?) issue setting in shop. RN

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gene bender

11-25-2007 15:09:39




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 Re: Gas $$$$ at $4.10 in reply to Coax, 11-25-2007 10:35:47  
You need a new vehickle that has been built for e85 you sure dont use it in older engines but you can run the 10% blend. Chech your owners manual there has been trouble when trying e85 in engines not built for it.



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teddy52food

11-25-2007 15:25:24




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 Re: Gas $$$$ at $4.10 in reply to gene bender, 11-25-2007 15:09:39  
My son in law has a flex fuel vehicle. When he uses E85, the milage drops so low it costs more per mile than gasoline.



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teddy52food

11-25-2007 14:35:09




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 Re: Gas $$$$ at $4.10 in reply to Coax, 11-25-2007 10:35:47  
Has anyone else checked out the Joe Newman Energy Machine website lately? Looks like he has the answer.



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CNKS

11-25-2007 13:04:39




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 Re: Gas $$$$ at $4.10 in reply to Coax, 11-25-2007 10:35:47  
Unless you do what Steven says there isn't much advantage, because the lower "mileage" about offsets the cost savings. However if you don't use it much, you may think you are saving money--if that works, try it.



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Steven f/AZ

11-25-2007 10:49:43




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 Re: Gas $$$$ at $4.10 in reply to Coax, 11-25-2007 10:35:47  
In theory E85 should be able to be used... you will need to be sure that any rubber parts of the system are compatible with the alcohol and you will need to richen the mixture quite a bit as ethanol has fewer BTUs than gasoline. It also has a higher octane so you could rebuild with more compression and/or increase the timing advance.

I can't wait to see someone make this work!

And that price isn't far off... my brother in ND filled with #1 clear diesel fuel the other day for $4.17 per gallon!

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