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Water in Cylinders Farmall 100

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3acrefarms

12-03-2007 15:06:18




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I removed and replaced head to free the engine on an old fixer-uper I bought. Now when I attempted to start it it had water all cylinders. No water in the oil. Any ideas????




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georgeky

12-04-2007 00:08:43




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 Re: Water in Cylinders Farmall 100 in reply to 3acrefarms, 12-03-2007 15:06:18  
Did you put a new head gasket on it? Did you use a sealant on each side of it? If not aluminum paint applied to each side, and allowed to dry until the hair on back of hand won't stick to it, then put it on and torque head to 65 pounds. I think some recommend 80 pounds now, but I never had any problems at 65. If this is not the problem do as Hal says, and take it to a machine shop and checked. Even if head is cracked it is likely fixable. Most of these old heads have already been fixed a time or two in the past.

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El Toro

12-03-2007 17:35:02




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 Re: Water in Cylinders Farmall 100 in reply to 3acrefarms, 12-03-2007 15:06:18  
You may need to have head magnafluxed. Hal



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Patrick Martin

12-03-2007 16:54:22




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 Re: Water in Cylinders Farmall 100 in reply to 3acrefarms, 12-03-2007 15:06:18  
I mean deck..... .

Either way, don't panic if you see this, it isn't really bad and most of these smaller engines have this.



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Patrick Martin

12-03-2007 16:53:02




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 Re: Water in Cylinders Farmall 100 in reply to 3acrefarms, 12-03-2007 15:06:18  
Sorry, here is the pic of the cracked head.

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Patrick Martin

12-03-2007 16:52:01




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 Re: Water in Cylinders Farmall 100 in reply to 3acrefarms, 12-03-2007 15:06:18  
1. Did you leave it uncovered outside in the rain?

2. Did you reuse your old head gasket or buy a new one?

3. Did you check to ensure that the block or head wasn't warped?

4. Were there any cracks in the deck of the block that are extreme?

5. Does the head have any cracks in it that would allow water in the cylinders?

Reccomendations in order:

1. Even if you left it uncovered in the rain, unless it was a deluge water should not enter the intake and exhaust ports. There are 4 drain cappilaries in the bottom of the exhaust/intake manifold that are designed to prevent water from flooding the engine. These are usually rusted closed and you will need to clean them out as well as the valley that the water collects in.

2. If you reused the old head gasket then it's probably not going to seal. Once it gets crushed to fit the deck and head it usually won't reseal as well if removed.

3. If the head or deck of the block is warped then you will have a tough time getting it to seal until you resurface the offending part. If the warpage is bad it just wont seal and you will indeed flood all of your cylinders. Check this with a straightedge. Be sure to do the head too.

4. These blocks are prone to freeze cracking due to the lack of sufficient freeze plugs on the side of the block as well as from negligence from former owners who did not add the appropriate 50/50 mix of antifreeze to the coolant. Cracks aren't bad, just weld the ones on the outside up and all will be well. Cracks on the deck aren't bad either unless they span more than 3/16" apart close to the sleeves. Something like this is perfectly acceptable.
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/EZFEED/a37526.jpg[/IMG]

5. Cracks in the head can be tricky. If you find a crack, use a cutoff wheel and grind a channel in it the weld it up. For your problem be sure to check for any cracks from the water ports to the combustion chambers.

Hope this helps!!!!!

Pat

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delta bob

12-03-2007 15:27:22




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 Re: Water in Cylinders Farmall 100 in reply to 3acrefarms, 12-03-2007 15:06:18  
Could be: Wrong head gasket or the head gasket installed wrong.



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Lane Huls

12-03-2007 15:26:02




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 Re: Water in Cylinders Farmall 100 in reply to 3acrefarms, 12-03-2007 15:06:18  
If there was not a lot of water in them it was probobly just condensation, but if there was a lot i have no idea



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