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Mike CA

12-06-2007 20:30:20

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The original owner of my H wants to give me the original steel wheels that the tractor was shipped on. I'd love to take them but I have two problems:
1) He says these wheels would require 4 men to move them.
2) I really have no place in my garage to keep them.
Should I accept them? If so, what can I do with them?

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LJR

12-10-2007 10:15:22

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Re: Dilemma in reply to Mike CA, 12-06-2007 20:30:20

These wheels are pretty rare today. Most steel-wheeled H and M tractors were sold during WWII when rubber was scarce. Most farmers couldn't wait to get rubber on them (because most farmers in those days had had years of experience on steel, bumping up and down on hard surfaces, AND wasting a lot of power in the bargain--notice those old ratings of tractors: 10-20 meant that only about half the engine horsepower reached the drawbar; on rubber, this tractor might be a 15-20). After the war, most of the wartime tractors were probably converted to rubber. Lots of them still have the cutoff, flat-spoked wheels.
Two men can certainly "handle" these wheels, if they are careful. They ARE heavy, and could fall if you lose your balance while trying to roll them. You can certainly get them on a trailer with a come-along.
I've never actually removed or replaced a heavy tractor wheel. I'd imagine about a four-man job--maybe three to hold the wheel up, and one to jack the tractor up and down to slide the axle through the wheel mounting hole. Plenty of room for an accident, especially if the tractor is held up ONLY by a jack under the axle. Another gambit might be to hoist the wheel from the ceiling joists and bring it down to meet the axle.
Ask the guys here. Many of them are really experienced with this stuff. I haven't worked on a big tractor in quite a few years.
Anyway, you should have a great show tractor on steel, and if you can figure out a fairly easy way to change wheels, you could have the tractor on rubber so's you wouldn't destroy your yard every time you got it out. Wives don't always understand these things. I got mine to understand that I needed a tractor last summer when we decided (together!) that the 8-acre "hay" (weed?) field in front of our place needed to be kept cut a couple of times a summer.
She knows that getting to play farmer once a week really makes me a great guy to live with, and she enjoys the smile on my face as I wheel the little crate around and think back to the days when I cultivated check-row corn with my father's F-12. I wish I could say the little crate was red, but it was the only thing I could find close by, with a good mower attached, and at a price I could afford.

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Mike CA

12-08-2007 17:50:25

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Re: Dilemma in reply to glennster, 12-06-2007 20:30:20

Steven f/AZ said: (quoted from post at 13:58:13 12/08/07) Mike, there is nothing better looking than an H with steel wheels! TAKE THEM!

Now I just need to find a set of those front wheels! third party image

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Steven f/AZ

12-08-2007 12:58:13

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Re: Dilemma in reply to Mike CA, 12-06-2007 20:30:20

Mike, there is nothing better looking than an H with steel wheels! TAKE THEM!

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Mike CA

12-07-2007 12:45:21

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Re: Dilemma in reply to Zach Bouchard, 12-06-2007 20:30:20

Bob Kerr said: (quoted from post at 13:01:21 12/07/07) Hey Brandonf, how close to Gridley are you? (South of Chico and north of Yuba City) I need someone close to there to do some "detective work" for me to find a guy who used to own a gas station there back in the 60s-70s.

Brandon is 133 miles according to Google maps.

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Mike Farmer

12-08-2007 10:54:12

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Re: Dilemma in reply to Mike CA, 12-06-2007 20:30:20

I just got a set after a long search. Cost me the equivilant $300 but to me worth every penny(or maybe every cent) MTF

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The Dukester

12-07-2007 19:07:05

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Re: Dilemma in reply to Mike CA, 12-06-2007 20:30:20

Just get 'em...if nothing else turn the rubber tired wheels around to "dish In" position and put the steelies on the outer ends of the axle...that'll get some attention. Ah...don't drive in 5th gear.

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Paul Shuler

12-07-2007 14:08:12

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Re: Dilemma in reply to Mike CA, 12-06-2007 20:30:20

No brainer, I have seen things change in the tractor shows over the years from glossy paint to origonal tractors in their work cloths being the most sought after. One day the wheels may be worth more than your tractor.
Paul

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Michael Soldan

12-07-2007 13:22:09

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Re: Dilemma in reply to Mike CA, 12-06-2007 20:30:20

Two guys can handle those steel wheels and they won't take up much room don't let them slip away.

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chuck craig from socal

12-07-2007 13:13:54

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Re: Dilemma in reply to Mike CA, 12-06-2007 20:30:20

WE can store them 4 u email me

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KEB1

12-07-2007 06:59:06

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Re: Dilemma in reply to Mike CA, 12-06-2007 20:30:20

How can you possibly turn them down? I've never even seen a set except in pictures. If you don't want them, I'd almost drive to California to get them.

Keith

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Janicholson

12-07-2007 06:24:51

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Re: Dilemma in reply to Mike CA, 12-06-2007 20:30:20

I would ask the owner/doner what the level of attachment he had to them. If none, tell him they will finance the restoration and sell them as indicated below. If they are part and parcel of the "Gift" and have sentement, I would see if they could be "placed in semi retirement" at the relitives house that has your first H. JimN

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glennster

12-07-2007 06:24:13

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Re: Dilemma in reply to Mike CA, 12-06-2007 20:30:20

mike, grab em, if you need storage room, i got plenty in the barn. i"m thinking them steel grousers would be perfect for breaking ice up in your driveway when it snows!!!!!

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RockyMO

12-07-2007 06:08:31

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Re: Dilemma in reply to Mike CA, 12-06-2007 20:30:20

You only get one opportunity to get the original steel wheels to your tractor. Get them, If you decide leter you don't want them trade or sell. If you don't get them and decide later you want them, to bad, there gone and won't be back.

Rocky in MO (who wishes he had them)

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CityBoy-McCoy

12-07-2007 03:33:05

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Re: Dilemma in reply to Mike CA, 12-06-2007 20:30:20

Ask your wife. Having them laying out in the yard may turn her against your hobby. Or, she may not mind at all....

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Larry M

12-07-2007 01:44:40

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Re: Dilemma in reply to Mike CA, 12-06-2007 20:30:20

You could have them sent to me and we both would be happy.

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Mike CA

12-06-2007 23:41:25

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Re: Dilemma in reply to Mike CA, 12-06-2007 20:30:20

old said: Well hes in the Navy and in CA so he has to be close to water and salt water at that so rust is a big problem

Think again:

Visalia, California

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maplehillfrm,pat

12-07-2007 04:42:44

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Re: Dilemma in reply to Mike CA, 12-06-2007 23:41:25

well thats just like living upstate ny 250 miles away from NYC,, and people still say how can you live by NYC,, nothing even resmebles the city,,, all country and farmland,, oh well

get the rims,, you can find a place to put them,, in the future you wont be sad over them, either you keep them ,or sell them, but since the former owner gave you the tractor and is giving you these, you should probably find out if his intention is for it to stay with the tractor,, have a good one,, pat

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brandonf

12-06-2007 22:16:11

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Re: Dilemma in reply to Mike CA, 12-06-2007 20:30:20

yup we all live on the beach, smokin tans, blonde hair, surf boards, listen to hip hop, and the best part about it is we all married and sleep with a woman that looks just like pam anderson lol..... ..... ..... ..... .....

central valley..... .... rust is non existant, it is just surface rust usually in most of ca

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Bob Kerr

12-07-2007 12:01:21

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Re: Dilemma in reply to brandonf, 12-06-2007 22:16:11

Hey Brandonf, how close to Gridley are you? (South of Chico and north of Yuba City) I need someone close to there to do some "detective work" for me to find a guy who used to own a gas station there back in the 60s-70s.

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Wardner

12-06-2007 21:08:55

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Re: Dilemma in reply to Mike CA, 12-06-2007 20:30:20

How'sa about getting a round piece of glass and making a coffee table? You could probably find some beverage glasses that fit nicely inside the cleats.

Those wheels are prime trading material. Or you could sell them outright and use the money for something you need. Put them on eBay. It just takes two out-of-control bidders to make your day.

Surprisingly, there are collectors who really WANT them. I don't blame them. They are unusual at a tractor meet.

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old

12-06-2007 21:06:13

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Re: Dilemma in reply to Mike CA, 12-06-2007 20:30:20

Get them no questions asked. But please don't bury them or you will destory a part of history. Even a foot in the ground will make them worth less in just a few years. If you want to display them make an iron holder for them so they are off the ground just a little bit. You can store them out side with no problem but put a board or some thing under them so as to keep them out of the dirt or in 6 months they will be a few inches in the ground

Hobby farm

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Wardner

12-06-2007 21:23:36

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Re: Dilemma in reply to old, 12-06-2007 21:06:13

Doesn't Mike live in the desert? I'm not sure he has ever seen rust.

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old

12-06-2007 21:36:06

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Re: Dilemma in reply to Wardner, 12-06-2007 21:23:36

Well hes in the Navy and in CA so he has to be close to water and salt water at that so rust is a big problem

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Andy Motteberg

12-06-2007 20:49:54

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Re: Dilemma in reply to Mike CA, 12-06-2007 20:30:20

If you are using them or not, take them if they are free. If you don't want to keep them, sell them. It won't hurt them to be left outside if you don't have room inside.

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flashback

12-06-2007 20:41:28

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Re: Dilemma in reply to Mike CA, 12-06-2007 20:30:20

set them on either side of your driveway buried about a foot deep. Man would I like to have them at my entrance.

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