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new battery and electric help for my 100

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CWB

12-19-2007 23:27:17




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i'm trying to find the least expensive source i can for a new 6V battery for my 100. the last one i bought about 5 years or so ago cost $25 at autozone and did the job fine. now everywhere i try i'm quoted $50 and up. any ideas where to get one cheap?
i'm also curious if there are any tricks to the starters on these? my starter seems to have a hesitation to it, it bogs down almost like the compression is too much for it at a given point even with a good battery in there. i replaced the cables a few years ago thinking that would help, but it didnt. any way to make the starter kick over harder?
thanks,
Carl

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John T

12-20-2007 08:11:22




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 Re: new battery and electric help for my 100 in reply to CWB, 12-19-2007 23:27:17  
CWB, on 6 volt systems I recomemend the biggest heaviest highest rated battery that physically fits in the mount and nuttin less then 0 better yet 00 gauge cables as mentioned below. A shop can give the battery a load test at no charge usually. If the ground is to any thin wimpy rusted sheet metal try it to a good frame bolt. Another place a problem can develop is a starter switch or solenoid. Depending on what type it is on some you can by pass jump around them n see if she cranks better then indicating a burned/carboned/resistive switch or solenoid. On tractors with the saddle mount push starter switches they can be removed and you may find the starter post is badly burned n pitted or the switch contatcs are burned/carboned/resistive.

I suggest to be safe to remove n clean n wire brush each n every battery n starter n ground n switch conenction,,,,, ,have the battery load tested n her fully charged,,,,, ,,all clean cables n conenctions n grounds,,,,, ,,big heavy battery with 00 gauge cables,,,,, switch or solenoid test,,,,, ,,,, n then if shes till a slow cranker I suspect a starter problem like bushings or armature or a brush problem.

John T

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CityBoy-McCoy

12-20-2007 05:24:59




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 Re: new battery and electric help for my 100 in reply to CWB, 12-19-2007 23:27:17  
In additon to the information provided by Hugh and Allan, if you have too much advance in your distributor, it will make the engine hard for the starter to kick over. You might check your timing and find that you need to retard it a little. mike durhan



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Hugh MacKay

12-20-2007 02:24:23




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 Re: new battery and electric help for my 100 in reply to CWB, 12-19-2007 23:27:17  
Carl: The battery box on a 100 comes in 3 separate pieces; right side, left side and cover. The side sections can be pressed in most local fabricating shops with a sheet metal bender. The bends are all 90 degrees. Most online sellers have the cover and the sides. I expect if you look through YT's selection they will have every thing you need. The cover will probably be more money than both sides together.

On your starter, you say you replaced cables and that didn't help, but how large were the cables? 6 volt systems need 01 or 00 gauge cables, as they carry twice the amps of 12 volt, and the ends should be soldered on. Most auto part store cables just aren't heavy enough. Best place to find cables for 6 volt is at heavy truck shops. they are using 00 or 01 gauge on the big diesels and most have the equipment to make them your desired length.

If your cables are already 00 or 01, then problem must be starter.

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Allan In NE

12-20-2007 02:29:13




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 Re: new battery and electric help for my 100 in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-20-2007 02:24:23  
Another thing,

Those 6 volt batteries go downhill in a hurry too. If your's is 5 years old, maybe all the tractor needs is a good, decent battery.

Buy a good one too. $25 won't hardly buy ya lunch anymore.

Allan



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