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Guyzoo

12-21-2007 17:41:59

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Hi everybody, I was pushing snow with my H this morning and when there is alot of snow the plow has a tendency to ''float'' keeping about 2 inches of snow on the ground. It is the same plow that was on my Allis Chalmers WD-45 and it was working great on it with no snow left. I am wondering if the plow is mounted too high or too low where it attaches to the tractor and the only thing I did to make it fit on my farmall is extend it 5'' on each side. Thanks you very much and Merry Christmas

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David in RI

12-30-2007 16:27:11

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Re: Farmall H snowplow ''floats''... oops in reply to Guyzoo, 12-21-2007 17:41:59

Hello Guyzoo, I just picked up a 300 utility and wanted to install a snow plow. Could you post some photo's of your set up? I have an idea of what I wanted to do but would like to see how yours is set up.
Thanks, David

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Guyzoo

12-22-2007 07:29:08

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Re: Farmall H snowplow ''floats''... oops in reply to Guyzoo, 12-21-2007 17:41:59

The plow is a hand made plow that my uncle build a long time ago and the hydraulics are fine (the plow is attatched to the hydraulic system with chains and they come loose when the plow toutches the ground.) the skid shoes are made of 90 degree angle iron welded to the edge of the plow. It was working great on my allis. thank you very much your help is appreciated

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Hugh MacKay

12-22-2007 08:28:09

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Re: Farmall H snowplow ''floats''... oops in reply to Guyzoo, 12-22-2007 07:29:08

Guyzoo: Like your blade, mine also is chain lift, that is our float. I sense a bit of confusion on the thread, your blade is not mounted on a loader, right or wrong? As I understand it your push arms going back to axle housing on each side, am I correct? Can be used only with narrow front end, correct?

I had one like that on a Farmall 300 nf, I built a frame out from axle housings, put my pivot at roughly clutch. I don't think the pivot point forward or aft matters, just get it low enough, so the blade stands more upright. Maybe you can achive some adjustment at the blade end easier than lowering the pivot. I had to lower the pivot with my 300 blade also. On both the 300 and my 130, it was blade tipped too far forward at top. Causes blade to act like a sled runner.

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Guyzoo

12-22-2007 10:48:15

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Re: Farmall H snowplow ''floats''... oops in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-22-2007 08:28:09

Sorry I didn't give you enough information. The plow looks pretty much like one from a pick up truck but it is hand made. The hydraulic system looks pretty much like the front lifting device that you sometimes see on farmall A and C to lift objects, except that there is two arms extending down so I can install the plow. So no it is not a loader style and it is not the ones that extend to the rear axles and my farmall is a wide front end. thank you very muck for your patience and your help.

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Guyzoo

12-22-2007 10:46:32

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Re: Farmall H snowplow ''floats''... oops in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-22-2007 08:28:09

Sorry I didn't give you enough information. The plow looks pretty much like one from a pick up truck but it is hand made. The hydraulic system looks pretty much like the front lifting device that you sometimes see on farmall A and C to lift objects, except that your arms are extending down so I can install the plow. So no it is not a loader style and it is not the ones that extend to the rear axles and my farmall is a wide front end.

thank you very muck for your patience and your help

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Janicholson

12-22-2007 06:02:40

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Re: Farmall H snowplow ''floats'' in reply to Guyzoo, 12-21-2007 17:41:59

Putting skids behind the edge that can be adjusted to keep the blade from digging in, but making a nice clear path is also a good idea. With the rig on flat concrete, or other flat, make sure the contact point of the blade is pretty much flat on the pavement, then set the skids to about 1/4" or so. Hugh's comment is also important, and parallels this leveling idea. JimN

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Hugh MacKay

12-22-2007 02:48:46

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Re: Farmall H snowplow ''floats'' in reply to Guyzoo, 12-21-2007 17:41:59

Guyzoo: Merry Christmas. You may be into the same problem I had switching my blade from Farmall SA to 130. I didn't have to change anything, it was a direct bolt up in mounting. I encountered the same problem you are having, thus I asked myself what is different. SA is on 9.5x24 rear and 5.00x15 front tires, 130 is on 12.4x24 rears and 6.00x16 front tires. I lowered the pivot point of my blade push arms about 3" on 130, and that cured the problem. This had been tipping top of blade too far forward. I may have gone just a bit too far, I notice my blade digs in on grassed areas , if ground is not frozen, worse than it did on SA. I do like it better if grading soil or gravel. You win some and loose some!!

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riverbend

12-21-2007 18:27:13

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Re: Farmall H snowplow ''floats'' in reply to Guyzoo, 12-21-2007 17:41:59

I'm guessing that it is a trip style bucket.

Try raising the loader and inch or two and trip the bucket. If the ground is good and frozen, it will scrape it right down to the dirt. It will also dig in if you raise it too high or come to a high spot.

The pins and pivots on my loader are worn, so I can just bump it up enough to take out the slack and it works great.

Greg

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Janicholson

12-21-2007 18:08:44

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Re: Farmall H snowplow ''floats'' in reply to Guyzoo, 12-21-2007 17:41:59

As much depends on the cutting edge of the blade where it touches 9or rides up on) the snow. If it is straight up and down, it will probably ride up. If it is dull, more than 1/2" on the wear surface, it will ride up. If the angle is good, and the mounting (push) point is at about the same elevation, it may need more weight. Tough packed snow is hard to get into with the edge. JimN

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john in pennsylvania

12-22-2007 05:19:05

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Re: Farmall H snowplow ''floats'' in reply to Janicholson, 12-21-2007 18:08:44

Good Morning, Merry Christmas,

Did you check to see if you have any air in the hydraulic system?

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Janicholson

12-22-2007 05:56:46

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Re: Farmall H snowplow ''floats'' in reply to john in pennsylvania, 12-22-2007 05:19:05

That is a good point, if the loader or plow hydraulics have air, and you are just letting it down to touch the ground, then pulling the stick back to hold, it might be very easy to ride up. If, however, you leave the stick forward in the "lower" position it will be having full weight on the ground. JimN

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