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Brando

01-03-2008 19:57:03

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Bought this a while back. Runs great except the gas tank is full of cr@p anyway I have been looking but can't identify. Any help is appreciated. Arn't trikes cool?
Brando

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chuck46

01-04-2008 19:51:36

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Re: Thanx for all the help and more info. in reply to Brando, 01-04-2008 16:37:31

Why hang on to an empty one? Chuck

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Hugh MacKay

01-04-2008 18:22:54

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Re: Thanx for all the help and more info. in reply to Brando, 01-04-2008 16:37:31

Brando: I have nothing against beer, now I wont speak for the rest. I really don't care for beer, bit of a rum and coke guy, myself. I think you'll find, we sensed you were having good time with this old tractor. We wanted in on the action.

It is obvious smeone built this tractor using part of a C and parts of a Super C. The grill is Super C, I'll bet it has a water pump, and it looks like C from the clutch housing back. What better way to have a bit of enjoyment with you than to suggest the builder may have left a beer san or two in the clutch housing. Keep on enjoying your tractor.

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Nat 2

01-04-2008 12:36:00

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to dave guest, 01-03-2008 19:57:03

I think they used generators clear up through most of the '06 series as well. The very last '06s had alternators, and the '56 series all had alternators.

Generators were used on Cubs up through the mid '70s.

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Hugh MacKay

01-04-2008 13:50:31

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to Nat 2, 01-04-2008 12:36:00

Nat: My 656 had a 12 volt generator, but then it was 67, the last year with the 06 grill. It was a spring of 67 tractor. Your probably right on last of 06's having alternators. The 140 had a generator until serial number 57723 sometime late 75.

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Hugh MacKay

01-04-2008 08:26:18

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to Brando, 01-03-2008 19:57:03

Brando: After reveiwing all this discussion and taking a serious second look, remembering Billy pointed out the beer in hand, I've decided you had a few too many beer and bolted the front half of a Super C to the back half of a C. You'll probably find two empty beer cans in the clutch housing.

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georgeky

01-04-2008 12:24:46

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-04-2008 08:26:18

Hugh, I just think it has the wrong grill on it. Look how it is mashed up, and how low the gas tank appears to be.

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LenNH

01-04-2008 07:51:36

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to Brando, 01-03-2008 19:57:03

The book FARMALL Letter Series Tractors by Fay and Kraushaar gives pretty good info on the differences among the various IH tractors, from 1939 up through the Super series. There aren't as many pictures of details as you might like, but certainly enough info to make a determination. There is good info on serial numbers and how to read them.
No personal experience with the C series, but from everything that can be seen in the picture, this is a C, with perhaps some mods, as others have said here. It appears that an alternator replaces the original generator. As best I can tell, generators were used all the way through the Super series.

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georgeky

01-04-2008 12:21:34

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to LenNH, 01-04-2008 07:51:36

Generators were used long after the super series. All numbered series through 450 used generators as well. Don't know about the 460/560, but I bet they did too.

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BillyinStoughton

01-04-2008 06:21:30

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to Brando, 01-03-2008 19:57:03

Let's not overlook the obvious here boys...HE'S HOLDING A BEER!

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MN Scott

01-04-2008 05:53:56

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to Brando, 01-03-2008 19:57:03

Farmall C. The band brakes and the straight brake pedals give it away.

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El Toro

01-04-2008 05:51:45

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to Brando, 01-03-2008 19:57:03

Does it have disc brakes? Hal

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Nat 2

01-04-2008 05:24:47

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to Andy Motteberg, 01-03-2008 19:57:03

Looks to be missing the toolbox under the seat. You should be sitting much higher than that.

It's definitely a C, though. No space under the gas tank. Look at the serial number. If it's 5 digits, it's a C. Over 100,000 is a Super C.

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John M

01-04-2008 13:37:50

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to Nat 2, 01-04-2008 05:24:47

No, its there, hes just got his feet proped up on the light bar.

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Harold H

01-04-2008 05:11:56

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to Brando, 01-03-2008 19:57:03

Can't really see the brakes, but if it has disk it is a Super C, if it has bands it is a C. Also, it will drive better if you turn the front wheel around. The caster is supposed to be to the rear.

Harold H

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Randy in NE

01-04-2008 04:59:13

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to Brando, 01-03-2008 19:57:03

I just compared the grills on my C and Super C. This has a Super C grill on it. On a C there is no space from the top of the hand crank hole and the bottom slot in the grill. Randy

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El Toro

01-04-2008 03:54:53

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to Brando, 01-03-2008 19:57:03

It looks to be a C, isn't there an emblem on the side of the hood? Hal

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CityBoy-McCoy

01-04-2008 04:38:10

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to El Toro, 01-04-2008 03:54:53

Hal, that emblem (decal) is in the wrong place, so it really means little or nothing. Should be on the hood and not on the side of the grill. What made me wonder if it was a Super C, is the space between the crank hole and the first (bottom) bar of the grill opening. It has the taller grill - like the Super A-1 and the Super C. If it were a regular C grill, the crank hole would be almost into the bottom of the grill opening, like the A's and Super A's. mike

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John M

01-04-2008 03:07:54

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to Brando, 01-03-2008 19:57:03

Is the tag still on the toolbox under the seat?

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Hugh MacKay

01-04-2008 02:06:42

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to Brando, 01-03-2008 19:57:03

Brando: I'm calling it a Farmall C, gas tank about 3/4" above hydraulic unit, Super C tank would be 2-1/2" above the hydraulic unit. Although pedal and brake aren't clear in photo they look like C.

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georgeky

01-04-2008 02:22:29

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-04-2008 02:06:42

Hugh, that fuzzy brake cover and clutch pedal was what I thought was for a C. Hard to make it out though.

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Hugh MacKay

01-04-2008 03:11:34

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to georgeky, 01-04-2008 02:22:29

George: The whole photo is not quite clear enough to be certain. That was the reason I gave him the measurment for distance between fuel tank and hydraulics for both. That doesn't show well in photo either. When I said C, I based it on position of hood and fuel tank in relation to the touch control rockshafts. I think Brando will have to confirm those fuel tank position figures or post a clearer photo for any of us to call it and be 100% certain.

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georgeky

01-04-2008 03:31:04

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-04-2008 03:11:34

Hugh, I am pretty sure I can see the brake linkage from shaft to pivot shaft, which would be for a C as the disk brakes for SC have the rod going straight into the drum. Like you say, just isn't clear enough to see well.

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Mike CA

01-03-2008 22:07:16

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to Brando, 01-03-2008 19:57:03

just says plain C on the grill, but since that isn't in the correct place, someone could have screwed up.

Where is that Brandon? Looks somewhere west to southwest.

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georgeky

01-03-2008 20:07:40

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to Brando, 01-03-2008 19:57:03

Yep, C. They are great tractors.

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CityBoy-McCoy

01-03-2008 20:31:04

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to georgeky, 01-03-2008 20:07:40

George:
"C" or "Super C"? How can you tell? Looks like the taller SC grill to me - but I am no C/SC expert. mike

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georgeky

01-03-2008 23:13:11

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to CityBoy-McCoy, 01-03-2008 20:31:04

Mike, it is hard to tell for sure, but looks like it has the straight clutch pedal and band brakes. It is a little fuzzy, so it may not have.

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Handyman

01-03-2008 20:02:31

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Re: What the heck is this? Don't tell me a Farmall. in reply to Brando, 01-03-2008 19:57:03

Its a Farmall "C"

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