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international.i-4 shift pattern

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dennis vanpoper

01-06-2008 19:44:42




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i have an i-4.i have a repair manuel,it states an i-4 shift pattern is the same as a h except 2and3 are different.is it all the way left up is rev down is 1 in the middle is it 2 up and 3 dn or is it 3up and 2 down.i havent drove it much out of rev and 1st.and is 4 all the way right up and 5 down or is it 5 up and 4 down?your help would be thankful




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Harold H

01-09-2008 18:22:11




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 Re: international.i-4 shift pattern in reply to dennis vanpopering, 01-06-2008 19:44:42  
Maby they changed the shift pattern during the last few years of production, but, both my 1944 owners manual and my 1947 I-4 tractor have the swapped shift pattern with 3 up and 2 down.

Harold H



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Harold H

01-07-2008 14:16:51




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 Re: international.i-4 shift pattern in reply to dennis vanpopering, 01-06-2008 19:44:42  
The overall speeds are faster because of the ring gear and pinion. However, the position of 2 and 3 are reversed in the shift pattern.

Harold H



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Harold H

01-07-2008 05:19:38




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 Re: international.i-4 shift pattern in reply to dennis vanpopering, 01-06-2008 19:44:42  
In the I-4 owners manual it shows the position of 2 & 3 are swapped on the gear shift pattern. See page 8 in I-4 Owners Manual INT. 6049.

Harold H



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John M

01-08-2008 03:04:07




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 Re: international.i-4 shift pattern in reply to Harold H, 01-07-2008 05:19:38  
Intereting, my manual makes no mention of the shifting pattern, but all the pages are in tact.



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John M

01-07-2008 03:02:32




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 Re: international.i-4 shift pattern in reply to dennis vanpopering, 01-06-2008 19:44:42  
2nd and 3rd are still 2nd and 3rd, 2nd just faster than 3rd. I always thought they just flipped the sliders and drivers on the shafts, until I realized that all the speeds are faster than an H so I really dont know what they did.In the coming years, I wil have to pull my top to repalce the gasket, maybe if i rememebr Ill have a look see then. What year is your I-4? I have a 45.



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Wardner

01-06-2008 21:11:20




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 Re: international.i-4 shift pattern in reply to dennis vanpopering, 01-06-2008 19:44:42  
The difference the manual speaks of is in the ratios, not the position or sequence of the gears.



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dennis van popering

01-06-2008 21:35:36




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 Re: international.i-4 shift pattern in reply to Wardner, 01-06-2008 21:11:20  
so what your saying is its the same gear ratio all except 2nd and3rd.well i will put excatly what the book says.gear shifting is also different in that the second and third speed positions are interchanged.thank you



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Wardner

01-06-2008 22:04:18




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 Re: international.i-4 shift pattern in reply to dennis van popering, 01-06-2008 21:35:36  
I am not saying that at all. The speeds are progressive. Each gear has a higher speed than the next starting with 1st and ending with 5th.

When I speak of ratios, I am using your antecedent regarding the comparison of an I-4 to a H. Industrials use different ratios from the Farmalls.

I doubt if it is possible to engineer the reversal of the 2nd-3rd slider and the reciprocal countershaft gears. But even if it was, the 1st/2nd shift and the 3rd/4th shift would be very difficult.

Isn't the shift pattern cast into the rear frame lid?

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RustyFarmall

01-07-2008 05:20:42




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 Re: international.i-4 shift pattern in reply to Wardner, 01-06-2008 22:04:18  
The speeds are faster because of the ring gear and pinion. It has nothing to do with the transmission.



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RustyFarmall

01-07-2008 05:22:16




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 Re: international.i-4 shift pattern in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-07-2008 05:20:42  
Also, the engine is set to run at a higher RPM than the H.



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