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Farmall 140 Spark Plug Gap and AL part number

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MomG

01-09-2008 18:54:17




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Just bought Farmall 140 1105 J w 12 Volt alternator system. OEM O&M manual says to gap plugs at 0.023" and use 93 Octane gas. Once source says use 87 octane w Lead Substitute additive and gap AL 388 plugs (hotter) than OEM AL 386s at 0.035". Any insights? Seems to run fine with AL 386s and 0.035 gap, but these plugs are carbon fouling w dry black powder like. Thanks, Mike in DC




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NawlensGator

01-10-2008 08:15:59




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 Re: Farmall 140 Spark Plug Gap and AL part number in reply to MomG, 01-09-2008 18:54:17  

Liked my 1st 140 so much I bought another. Both restored.

My owners mannuals both call for 0.023" plug gap and I've always used regular unleaded.

I put a hotter coil (flame throwers from this site)in both and opened the plug gap to 0.045".

Both are 12V alternator with electronic ignition. Tractors run great!

I clean the plugs occasionaly and have seen soot, but it doesn't seem excessive. If not smoking, I would agree a carb adjustment/rebuild is in order.

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Hugh MacKay

01-10-2008 02:46:23




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 Re: Farmall 140 Spark Plug Gap and AL part number in reply to MomG, 01-09-2008 18:54:17  
Momg: I've been around these little offsets for 50 years, and I have operator's manuals and service manuals for each of my SA, 130 and 140, and I've yet to see a recomendation for 93 octain gas. In fact they will run well on lower than 87, but that is as low as we have today.

As far as the lead substitute goes that is a bunch of hogwash. Lead was only ever necessary for high performance, high rpm engines, your 140 is neither.

I'm not familiar with those AL numbers, however those tractors all came from the factory with Champion D-16. The only reason to go with a hotter plug would be if the tractor is not regularly worked hard. I still run my D-16 with a gap setting of .023. Everytime I encounter other owners and tractors, they always ask how I get the power I'm getting and have them running so smooth. I tell them as I'm telling you, just maybe IH had it right. By the way, my SA is 6 volt, 130 and 140 are 12 volt.

Believe me I do work these little tractors quite hard. I have a Woods mower on my SA. I have a 2x12 plow, a 24 blade disk and 17 shank Stine cultivator. Statistics will tell you these each require more horse power than I have in the 130 or 140. I do ocasionally run out of traction, but I never run out of power to pull any of those 3 implements. I have farmed with tractors as large a 150 HP, and my ratio of speed, per HP, per plow bottom or disk blade or cultivator shank is just as high, maybe a bit higher with 130 or 140 than those big tractors were. That my friend is my judgement call on whether my tractors are working well. I have a neighbor with 200 hp and a 160 shank Stine cultivator, roughly same ratio of hp to shanks as I have. When I can follow him down the field, I know my tractor is working well, when he doesn't keep up my tractor is working exceptionally well.

These little tractors are not that complicated, just some folks make them complicated. I once was working my 130 alongside a 90 hp FordNH. Both tractors quit, mechanical problems. A trip to the parts bin and I was going in less than 3 hours. His 5 year old tractor was picked up by NH dealer, came home a week later with a bill attached equal to 16% of what he paid new for the tractor. I rest my case.

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CityBoy-McCoy

01-09-2008 19:39:40




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 Re: Farmall 140 Spark Plug Gap and AL part number in reply to MomG, 01-09-2008 18:54:17  

Ma:
Don't know everything that is wrong with your tractor, but if you are regularly fouling 386 plugs, then you are running rich - either carb adjustment, or float setting - one or the other, or, I suppose it is possible, both. Only other possibility is burning oil and fouling plugs. Is your tractor belching blue smoke? mike durhan



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