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Slowing Down a Farmall M

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R2'd

01-09-2008 20:03:28




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I have an M and it is simply to fast for a brush cutter (thick stuff). I noticed in the manual that Farmall offered a Low, Low Speed option. It looks to be a 1st and reverse sliding gear and a 1st speed driving gear. The two part numbers are 58279 DA and 60216 DA. Have any of you heard of this before? If not, do you have any idea how I can slow this baby down? Thanks,

Rob




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Nat 2

01-12-2008 09:50:09




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 Re: Slowing Down a Farmall M in reply to MDJim, 01-09-2008 20:03:28  
The only thing you could feasibly do is use smaller tires. Get yourself some 36" rims from an early H and go with 11.2x36 or smaller tires. That ought to get your speed down by at least 25%.

What you need at minimum is a tractor with live PTO. You could then use the clutch to ease into the big stuff. Newer farmalls will also have a TA which will give you something like 25-33% speed reduction in 1st.
Ideally you want a hydro. Infinitely adjustable speed from 0 to whatever.

Frankly, an M is not a very good tractor for your application, and there really isn't anything practical you can do to it to make it work the way you want it to. The slow gear option is TOO slow, difficult to find, and difficult to install. New tires ain't cheap either, and 36" drop center rims may be tough to find.

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R2'd

01-12-2008 06:14:53




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 Re: Slowing Down a Farmall M in reply to R2'd, 01-09-2008 20:03:28  
Thanks for all the replies. Power isn't a concern...it has plenty. It is the speed at which it pulls. The rated speed for the M is almost 2MPH in 1st for the tires I use(13.6X38). That's flying if you are cutting up to 3" diameter brush. The pics attached are nice; however, that M is cutting grass...not brush. BTW, I have a Rhino GR60 I use for the big stuff.

Thanks again, I will continue my quest to slow this beast down.

Rob

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CityBoy-McCoy

01-10-2008 14:46:53




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 Re: Slowing Down a Farmall M in reply to R2'd, 01-09-2008 20:03:28  
Sounds like something is wrong with your tractor. Maybe you need an engine rebuild. mike



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John M

01-10-2008 03:00:35




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 Re: Slowing Down a Farmall M in reply to R2'd, 01-09-2008 20:03:28  
I just want to know what your cutting that 1st gear is to fast. You using a sickle mower or something. If you using a bushhog type mower then raisw it some. Yea you may have to go over it again, but it aint going to take as long a the low,low speed.



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chuck46

01-09-2008 20:43:27




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 Re: Slowing Down a Farmall M in reply to R2'd, 01-09-2008 20:03:28  
R2'd, My H had the slow low, took it out as quick as I could find the normal gears. It slows reverse also and I didn't like that at all. I would take a partial swath when it got tough. Good luck, Chuck



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Wardner

01-09-2008 20:37:54




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 Re: Slowing Down a Farmall M in reply to R2'd, 01-09-2008 20:03:28  
It is actually three gears and a different countershaft with an integral first gear. The countershaft first gear is so small it has to be machined as part of the shaft rather than sliding it on.



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Dalton S.

01-09-2008 20:11:44




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 Re: Slowing Down a Farmall M in reply to R2'd, 01-09-2008 20:03:28  
I have heard about it and seen a couple H's and M's sell for a good price with the low, low gears in them,(they are sought after by pullers or something like that). But I am not sure how a M doesn't have enough power and a slow enough speed for a brush cutter, even through thick stuff. How big of brush cutter do you have? It shouldnt be anymore than five ft. wide for an M.



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georgeky

01-09-2008 21:50:45




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 Re: Slowing Down a Farmall M in reply to Dalton S., 01-09-2008 20:11:44  
Don't know why the pic didn't work. Search 1950 M and 15 foot mower in tractor photos.



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FarmallDude

01-10-2008 00:19:27




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 Re: Slowing Down a Farmall M in reply to georgeky, 01-09-2008 21:50:45  
Here you go George.

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georgeky

01-10-2008 14:35:03




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 Re: Slowing Down a Farmall M in reply to FarmallDude, 01-10-2008 00:19:27  
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Another pic of the M mowing. I sure hope no one tells the M it can't pull that thing.



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georgeky

01-09-2008 21:29:11




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 Re: Slowing Down a Farmall M in reply to Dalton S., 01-09-2008 20:11:44  
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I>Link don't know why everyone thinks a 5 or 6 foot mower is all an M will handle. Hell, that ain'rt wde as the tractor. I have pulled this 15 foot BMB heavy duty mower for years with M's. A good M will take it anywhere in thick or thin.



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Richard E.

01-10-2008 07:57:34




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 Re: Slowing Down a Farmall M in reply to georgeky, 01-09-2008 21:29:11  
And I thought a 10 foot Woods off set was too much. I"m only dealing with 38 horsepower, and want to keep it together for many more years to come. My 2 cents..... ..



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georgeky

01-10-2008 09:49:20




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 Re: Slowing Down a Farmall M in reply to Richard E., 01-10-2008 07:57:34  
The 15 foot is easier for them M to pull than a 10 footer. Momentum and stuff. I also have a 10 foot Rhino, and this is from experience with both. Been pulling that 15 footer for more than 20 years with an M and ain't hurt it yet. Both My M's do have overbore high compression pistons and some 400 parts in the egines. Just need live PTO and live hydraulics, but they pull them fine.



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Dave 2N

01-10-2008 05:22:09




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 Re: Slowing Down a Farmall M in reply to georgeky, 01-09-2008 21:29:11  
Bingo!! I agree 100%.



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Bob Kerr

01-09-2008 22:19:35




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 Re: Slowing Down a Farmall M in reply to georgeky, 01-09-2008 21:29:11  
Right with ya George! My M doesn"t know that 6ft mower is on the back unless I am going through small trees 2"in dia and those big anthills 2 ft tall.Those anthills opened up the governor a bit! I "mowed" stuff this last summer that was WAY taller than the exhaust on the tractor. It was more like "Mutillated stuff". I got hit in the back a lot less than when I bushhogged with the little Ferguson TO30 since the M is so tall but those yellow jackets still got me.

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