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Putting a new clutch in a Farmall 504

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Tom in Mich

01-11-2008 07:08:38




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I have a narrow front 504 that I have to replace the clutch in. I plan on making a support stand for the front half (adjustable up and down)and use a large floor jack under the transmission and roll it back to seperate. Is this a good way of doing it or is there a better way? Also, should I get a tool for aligning the clutch plate with the pilot bushing? Any help or ideas would be apreciated. Thanks.

Tom

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Hugh MacKay

01-12-2008 15:42:03




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 Re: Putting a new clutch in a Farmall 504 in reply to Tom in Mich, 01-11-2008 07:08:38  
Tom: My brother uses a system for narrow front tractors, using a set of binder truck wheels. He has an axle made up to accept the binder wheels. He places that directly under rear of engine, with adjustable vertical links going up to engine side chanels. He also has diagnol adjustable braces from his binder axle to front bolster. This allows the entire front of the tractor to roll without fear of tipping. He then just places a bottle jack under clutch housing of rear half, lock the brakes, choke rear wheels. By far easier to make the back half stable.

I use a different system, mine works well with wide front, but I have to remove front wheels on a narrow front. I place a hardwood pallet extending from front end to rear of engine. I then use square blocking up to tractor frame making contact in at least 3 places. Using ratchet tie down straps, I anchor the entire front end to the hardwood pallet. I then use a bottle jack under clutch housing and a pallet jack under the pallet. However you do this, always move the front section. The back half is easy to secure, and it will stay put.

Both systems work well, I think I have an advantage with big tractors. I once did a 560 with engine and front end on 1 pallet, torque tube on a second pallet, and each rear wheel filled with chloride and in a standing position on two separate pallets. Definitely works better if you have mulitpule functions going on, the one pallet jack can do all. I have rolled the back half of an articulated Deere away from the front half on a pallet. Quite versitile as your jack is never tied up longer than the actual move. I find you can buy used pallet jacks around $100.-$150. Good solid jacks, very likely slow hydraulics from years of use. I've had the same one for 20 now.

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TractormanNC

01-11-2008 14:17:32




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 Re: Putting a new clutch in a Farmall 504 in reply to Tom in Mich, 01-11-2008 07:08:38  

You already have the best lineup shaft there is. The transmission input shaft and IPTO shaft. Just put the pressure plate on the IPTO splines and clutch disc on the transmission input shaft, roll it together and put in the pressure plate bolts thru the inspection cover on the bottom of the clutch housing. BTDT



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Bill46

01-11-2008 10:22:53




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 Re: Putting a new clutch in a Farmall 504 in reply to Tom in Mich, 01-11-2008 07:08:38  
I always use a chain hoist to hold and move it...lucky in the respect.
For an alignment shaft...I make mine. I get a piece of copper tubing that will slide in the pilot bearing snug...or wrap a little tape on it to make it snug and add a little tape where the disc goes to keep it aligned. Them just snug the pressure plate bolts and pull the tubing out.
Done that with a lot of them.
Guess I am just cheap in some respect.

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Hoss357

01-11-2008 08:06:18




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 Re: Putting a new clutch in a Farmall 504 in reply to Tom in Mich, 01-11-2008 07:08:38  
TOM WHERE ARE YOU AT IN MICH? JUST REPLACED MINE IN A 450 WAS PRETTY EASY SPLITING THAT IS!!! HAD A COUPLE OF HURDLES ON THE WAY.



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Tom in Mich

01-11-2008 08:58:42




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 Re: Putting a new clutch in a Farmall 504 in reply to Hoss357, 01-11-2008 08:06:18  
I'm close to Spring Lake, over on the west shore area.

Tom



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Randy in NE

01-11-2008 07:57:10




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 Re: Putting a new clutch in a Farmall 504 in reply to Tom in Mich, 01-11-2008 07:08:38  
If the stand for the front half is stout enough and sturdy enough you should be ok. If. You have a good solid, smooth floor to work on with ample room to get around everything. Just pick out your support spot for the floor jack. Somewhere under the torque tube should work. An alignment tool is always nice. I wouldn't purchase one but if you can borrow one or fabricate something so that you get the clutch and pressure plate aligned fairly close then you should be ok. On a tractor you have the luxury of being able to eye-ball it, unlike being under a car or pickup with limited manuevering room for the head and body.

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Randy in NE

01-11-2008 07:59:35




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 Re: Putting a new clutch in a Farmall 504 in reply to Randy in NE, 01-11-2008 07:57:10  
I apologize for the duplicate messages. My computer never used to do this until I reserved my handle of Randy in NE. It doesn't tell me that it is posting it twice. It just does it. Randy



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Randy in NE

01-11-2008 07:54:15




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 Re: Putting a new clutch in a Farmall 504 in reply to Tom in Mich, 01-11-2008 07:08:38  
If the stand for the front half is stout enough and sturdy enough you should be ok. If. You have a good solid, smooth floor to work on with ample room to get around everything. Just pick out your support spot for the floor jack. Somewhere under the torque tube should work. An alignment tool is always nice. I wouldn't purchase one but if you can borrow one or fabricate something so that you get the clutch and pressure plate aligned fairly close then you should be ok. On a tractor you have the luxury of being able to eye-ball it, unlike being under a car or pickup with limited manuevering room for the head and body.

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Randy in NE

01-11-2008 07:53:52




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 Re: Putting a new clutch in a Farmall 504 in reply to Tom in Mich, 01-11-2008 07:08:38  
If the stand for the front half is stout enough and sturdy enough you should be ok. If. You have a good solid, smooth floor to work on with ample room to get around everything. Just pick out your support spot for the floor jack. Somewhere under the torque tube should work. An alignment tool is always nice. I wouldn't purchase one but if you can borrow one or fabricate something so that you get the clutch and pressure plate aligned fairly close then you should be ok. On a tractor you have the luxury of being able to eye-ball it, unlike being under a car or pickup with limited manuevering room for the head and body.

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