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Diesel block for IH 464?

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hayray

01-24-2008 14:15:05




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Can you put a 3 cyliner 464 diesel engine in a frame of a 464 gas tractor? And does IH sell the whole diesel engine complete?




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Fromjb2

01-25-2008 19:27:11




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 Re: Diesel block for IH 464? in reply to hayray, 01-24-2008 14:15:05  
Ray, the D206 was an IH German built Diesel. It belonged to the same family of 3,4&6 Cyl IH German Diesels. There was 3 cyl D179 used in 454,484,495,3220 about 40HP, next was 4 cyl D206 used in 624,464,584,594,3230 about 50HP, then 4 cyl D239 used in 724,574,674,684,695,4210,544 about 62HP,
next 4 cyl D246 used in 784,795,Hydro84 about 67HP, next 4 cyl D268 used in 884,895,4230 about 72HP then 6 cyl D310 used in 686, Hydro88 about 70HP. Also these engines were found in several industrial models. These engines all used common parts from timing gears, pistons and sleeves.
Very reliable engine.
Back to your question about gas engine for Diesel engine swap. I would guess and this is only a guess that any of the 4cyl D206, D239, D246, & D268 engines would bolt up to the bell housing on a 464 as from the bell housing back the 84 series (454,464,474,674,684,584,784,884 and more) all had the same rear end just different gear ratios as the HP increased the tire size increased. In Oct. 06 my brother bought a used 3230(D206) and we transferred his 2250 front end loader from his 495(D179). The loader frame had two sets of mounting holes drilled in it. The ones for the 4 cyl D206 engine were about 6 inches farther apart than the 3 cyl D179.

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JimB

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hayray

01-26-2008 16:46:28




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 Re: Diesel block for IH 464? in reply to Fromjb2, 01-25-2008 19:27:11  
thanks for that great, and in depth info.



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Fromjb2

01-24-2008 18:53:33




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 Re: Diesel block for IH 464? in reply to hayray, 01-24-2008 14:15:05  
Hi Ray, In Canada the 464 had a German 4 cyl D206 Diesel engine. The 454 had a 3 cyl D179 German Diesel. Can't comment on gas to Diesel engine swap as I never saw a gas engine in either 454 or 464 always German Diesels in Canada although the Operator's Manual that came with our 454 did mention a Petrol engine option.
But the ones sent to the US were shipped in parts and assembled in the US and they had different electrical systems Delco vs Lucas and different front axles and there were some US built gas engines installed in them.

JimB

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hayray

01-25-2008 02:22:41




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 Re: Diesel block for IH 464? in reply to Fromjb2, 01-24-2008 18:53:33  
Thanks for the reply, wonder if that D206 Diesel is a IH named diesel or do you remember the make? The problem we are having is that the gas engine was piece mealed together appearently and is difficult to order complete sets for. We checked with Yesterdays Tractro, they have a rebuild for the 3 cylinder diesel.



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