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C-123 power unit from windrower

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JohnG(TX)

01-30-2008 11:10:01




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I was given the remains of a power unit from a windrower and I am trying to replace the missing parts and restore it. It is a C-123 block with part number 366295R3 and date code 2*28*E. It has a serial number on the block of 60736, with no prefix or suffix, and the data tag shows serial H-3263. The data tag also shows IH of Canada - Hamilton, but the block looks to be cast in Louisville (big L casting letter). The front mount (which may be specific to the windrower?) has a part number of 355839R2 and date of 11*12*E. The rear bell housing cover has part number 8545 and date code 3*25*F(?). The manifold looks to have a very short carb mount. It looks shorter than the one on my Super C. It has part number 866905R1 and the date code is unreadable. Maybe for use with a taller carb or a spacer?

First off, what windrower would have used this engine? I want to see what it looked like originally to restore it.

Second, what parts are unique to this type of installation? It does not have a clutch, just a direct drive through the bell housing. The original cork plugs are all still there.

Third, where can I go to get the Power Unit specific parts? I am looking for the hand clutch workings and some other parts. I don't know if it originally had controls and gauges or if they were by the driver's seat.

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Bob

01-30-2008 14:34:10




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 Re: C-123 power unit from windrower in reply to JohnG(TX), 01-30-2008 11:10:01  
YEARS ago, we had a 161 and a 163 windrower that had the 123 engines. I installed one of the engines in a Super A, with no major problems. There may have been one bolt different at the front, I can't remeber just WHAT the details were of that.

I don't recall EITHER having a true clutch, though, and a dummy "driving disc" bolted to the flywheel, and a shaft sticking out that had a variable-speed pulley on it that opened up enough to let go of the belt, and stop the swather, with NO actual clutch being involved. IIRC, I have the flywheel housing and SAE PTO adapter around somewhere, but now (-18º and snow) wouldn't be a good time to rummage around for them!

(I just re-read your post and see you DO NOT have a clutch, which agrees with what I've written.)

The 161 and 163 were mostly identical, except the 163 was MUCH IMPROVED be changing the angle of the cutterbar, so the guards ran PARALLEL to the ground, at operating height, rather than hanging down, which had made the 161's MUCH more prone to jamming into the ground and/or getting broken off.

There's an engine manual listed toward the bottom of the page at this link:

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A GOOGLE search for "161" Windrower will turn up TONS of more literature.

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JohnG(TX)

01-30-2008 12:39:12




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 Re: C-123 power unit from windrower in reply to JohnG(TX), 01-30-2008 11:10:01  
I'm pretty sure it was a self-propelled windrower, but I could be wrong. I don't think it was a baler. The think was pretty much disassembled when I saw it. The engine was actually pulled off and thrown aside. It has a rather wide front end with a dinky tail caster-type wheel. Not much of any real value was left of it.
I was able to buy some parts from a C-123 power unit, but am unsure if they will work on this one. The front mount, which mounts the radiator, has no provisions for a bolt/bracket for the lower-center grill, so I am wondering if it uses a farmall B style grill. I have seen some that have a squarish radiator cover/gill that is quite ugly. I really like the earlier style rounded grill and hood.

I can send photos of what I have if you think it will help.

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Keith-OR

01-30-2008 11:57:11




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 Re: C-123 power unit from windrower in reply to JohnG(TX), 01-30-2008 11:10:01  
John, are you sure it is off of a windrower(swather I assume). I had C-123 as you have discribed that I removed from a baler, had no clutch system on engine. Also the intake is shorter, and the thermostat housing is smaller in dia. than tractor C-123. Gauges and starter button should have been mounted on the left rearside of power unit approvimately above end of bellhousing drive unit.


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