Where to brace this Farmall 504 axle (pictures)

I have bought a loader and need to install it. My fear is the weak front axle. Growing up as a kid I remember Dad always telling me to be careful the old Farmall has a weak front axle. Clearly this is a home made front axle mounting aparatus and needs to be braced. But to where?

This looks like a good place.

As well as behind the oil pan on the (bellhousing?).

Can a new Schwartz be purchased from somewhere? Just add some steel to mine? Ideas?

The loader has a 2800lb max capacity at the bucket, 4000lb at the pins. I plan no more than a 6ft bucket of dirt or 4x5 bale (800-1000).

I appriciate all the help that the YT members have provided. I want to restore this old 504 not to a parade tractor, but a fully functional and reliable piece of machinery.

I have already got a pass to get some 1x3 alloy steel from work to fabricate the "vee" frame.

Thanks again

I appriciate all the help that the YT members have provided. I want to restore this old 504 not to a parade tractor, but a fully functional and reliable piece of machinery.

I have already got a pass to get some 1x3 alloy steel from work to fabricate the "vee" frame.

Thanks again

When I get my loader mounts in, I will install them and see where they fit on the sub-frame. Then I will determine where I can tie in the "vee" without interference. I see many gussets in the ol' 504's future.

I emailed "Rusty" and he is working up a price on a new Schwartz. I will weigh the price against my re-engineered (actually have a degree, Industrial Engineering) mystery axle.

Finally, with the long distance between my water pump and radiator, along with some relocation of items, could a D-282 fit?

Thanks Hugh...

I had a 504, however I didn't keep it very long, thus I don't remember a lot of detail. My 504 and 656 came with farmland I bought, the owner had bought both tractors new in 67, along with a 2000 loader on the 656. He had changed the loader from 656 to the 504 and had to cut 6" out of loader frame back near rear axle housings. (actually saved the pieces) Since I wasn't going to keep the 504, but wanted to keep the loader, I had to weld those 6" frame pieces back to install the loader on my 560, that's right 560 and 656 have the same length chassis and wheel base.

The reason I raise this, keeping in mind I just don't remember about 504, something doesn't look quite normal with your tractor. That is the reason I asked about more photos. Have you got a 504 that someone rebuilt using some 560 and 656 parts, exculding the wide front? How long is the tractors wheel base? In that era, most 4 cylinder Farmalls were close to 90" wheelbase and small chassis 6 cylinder tractors like 560 and 656 were close to 96" wheel base. Just the 6" from my loader frame difference. Those figures could vary a bit narrow front is not exactly same as wide front, and the after market front end you have may be a bit different also, however they should fall between 88" and 93" for 4 cylinder and 94" to 98" for 6 cylinder.

Assy No. A-21027 Model No. A-DU504