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Jeef

02-12-2008 18:40:39




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I ripped the bucket swivel point off of my fel the other day while trying to get out of a stuck. It appears that the top cylinders may have been pulling against that point as it pealed the metal off for about 1/2 in around the welded bushing.

I am thinking that I will cut the loader arm off behind the broken bushing and re do what the factory did by notching the top of the arm and welding in new bushing squarly.

Any advice on the topic would be greatly appriciated.

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Jeef

02-13-2008 16:08:50




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 Re: Busted loader fix ideas in reply to Jeef, 02-12-2008 18:40:39  
Well I have to step back and appolajise as I mis interpeted what I was looking at laying on my back in an Ice storm last night, In the daylight I was happy to find that it was actuallly the weld that failed and not the arm. What looked like the end of the arm sheared off was actually a cover that keeps mud out of the end of the tube. All I will have to do is prep the material and squarly weld the bushing back in.

The arm is intact. it appears this dammage may have been done and I didn't notice it when buying the tractor because there was pitted rust around the failure area and the only fresh unrusted steel was the part tat ripped out. In looking at the other side I can see that the dammage on the mounting point is old. I am going to weld it all back up where it was and reinforce the entire area. The QA bracket I bought shifted quite a bit when the point failed. I am going to fix that with some squaring up and some welding.

I feel much better about this after seeing it in the daylight. Still not happy about it but it could be much worse.

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Janicholson

02-14-2008 06:01:55




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 Re: Busted loader fix ideas in reply to Jeef, 02-13-2008 16:08:50  
That is good. JimN



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Janicholson

02-14-2008 06:01:47




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 Re: Busted loader fix ideas in reply to Jeef, 02-13-2008 16:08:50  
That is good. JimN



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Janicholson

02-13-2008 06:37:04




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 Re: Busted loader fix ideas in reply to Jeef, 02-12-2008 18:40:39  
Brownie 450 is giving good advice. If the pivot opint is moved rearward, the geometry will likely be made worse, or not work, or allow excess force to be applied to the rams on the bucket , bending them.
I would get solid measuremants (vertically and length) for the original location of the bushing.
Then I would trim off the material that is torn from eash side evenly such that I had good clean metal, square to the new extension to be made.
I would use heavy wall rectangular tubing (or round if it is round arm material) and make an extension that fits inside the clean arm hole and has the new bushing inside it already. Then I would make two plates to fit on both sides of that, to fill it out to the original width. Welding this to the frame arms, and the new extension, finishes the extension. Putting the bushings in the added part before welding saves aggrivation. JimN

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Brownie450

02-13-2008 05:22:37




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 Re: Busted loader fix ideas in reply to Jeef, 02-12-2008 18:40:39  
If you can, Reinforce the sheared out area with 3/8 or 1/2 inch plate & then get longer bushings & cut them to size. Usually this bushing material is double wall mechanical tubing.



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Nat 2

02-12-2008 19:30:22




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 Re: Busted loader fix ideas in reply to matthies, 02-12-2008 18:40:39  
If you do that, the geometry won't be right. Either the bucket won't roll all the way back, or it won't dump.



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