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Super A govenor spring

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Michael C in TN

02-16-2008 06:26:47




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My SA is surging (hunting).

The spring adjustment on the bottom (under the dust cap) move freely using just my fingers. I feels like there is no spring resistance at all.

Question is, can that spring be taken out and inspected without removing the governor?

Looking at the manual it appears that it can be but then again things are never thaat simple.

Anyone ever done this?.

Thanks, Mike.

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Jim Becker

02-16-2008 18:23:01




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 Re: Super A govenor spring in reply to Michael C in TN, 02-16-2008 06:26:47  
Wait a minute here. Hugh's answer is correct if you are talking about the main govermor spring. I assume you are actually asking about the bumper spring that helps control surging. It does screw in from the bottom. It should be covered with an acorn nut. Take the acorn nut off then unscrew the holder for the spring. You will probably find the spring is gummed up and needs cleaning. You may even find it broken or rusted into pieces. If it is good, clean it up, oil it and screw it back in. If it is damaged, get a new one. Set it by trial and error. Screw it in a bit and try it. If it surges, screw it in a bit more etc.

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Hugh MacKay

02-17-2008 07:22:31




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 Re: Super A govenor spring in reply to Jim Becker, 02-16-2008 18:23:01  
Jim: I've never had a problem with that spring lifetime, always careful to put it back the way it was. I suspect that might be more common in tractors parked for some time, and no oil getting up there. I've seen the effects of no oil up top for long periods an transmission and PTO.



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Michael C in TN

02-16-2008 19:10:11




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 Re: Super A govenor spring in reply to Jim Becker, 02-16-2008 18:23:01  
Jim, thats exactly the spring I was referring to. The IT manual picture does not give a good view, but is looks like the top plate (washer) of the spring just butts up against an arm.

I plan to try your suggestion.

Thanks a whole bunch.

Mike



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Hugh MacKay

02-16-2008 07:32:33




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 Re: Super A govenor spring in reply to Michael C in TN, 02-16-2008 06:26:47  
Michael: The governor has to come off to get at the spring. You can get it off by tilting radiator forward, but much easier with radiator off.



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Michael C in TN

02-16-2008 15:13:54




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 Re: Super A govenor spring in reply to Hugh MacKay, 02-16-2008 07:32:33  
Hufgh, Thank.

Just don't like to tear into something unless it's required.



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Hugh MacKay

02-16-2008 15:33:25




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 Re: Super A govenor spring in reply to Michael C in TN, 02-16-2008 15:13:54  
Michael: I know how you feel, I always find this governor removal less than exciting. If you've never done it before, I recommend removing the radiator first. I have had to fix up the shaft bushing on the throttle lever input. Usually the output shaft is in good shape. I've never found much problem with the centrifical weights and the pivots. I always replace the spring that connects input and output shafts, unless the current one is in exceptional condition. I've never taken a gobernor apart and not replaced the thrust bearing. These two items are relatively inexpensive compared to the labor you put into getting to them.

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