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How do you tell the difference, Farmall H vs M?

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drnsdad

02-21-2008 05:47:10

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Hi, probably a simple question. But how do you tell the difference between a H and a M when all of the decals are missing ? Anyway to easily distinguish the difference just by a picture or would you have to get the serial numbers and check them ? Thanks, Robret

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LenNH

02-26-2008 10:48:51

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Re: How do you tell the difference, Farmall H vs M? in reply to drnsdad, 02-21-2008 05:47:10

The H and M were given the same wheelbase, so that mounted implements like cultivators could be attached to either without the need for different parts, like lifting arms and such--this is as I understand what IHC had in mind. Because the engine is taller in the M, the hood is higher and gives the whole tractor a somewhat more massive and compact look. Because the hood is taller than on the H, the steering shaft comes out of the hood at a shallower angle than on the H. The H shaft comes out at a fairly steep angle. All-in-all---this is my personal opinion, now--the H is a more graceful-looking tractor because of the overall proportions of length to hood height. I happen to think that the Raymond Loewy design of both tractors was a stroke of genius, and must have been responsible for a lot of sales right off the showroom floor. I can remember walking into IHC dealers' showrooms in the 40s and just craving one of those gorgeous creatures (I was driving a steel-wheeled 10-20 at the time--a wonderful, tough, hard-steering, noisy, rough-riding old rhinoceros). The difference in hood height is apparent when you stand next to these tractors.
Suggest you look through various websites for pictures of both tractors.

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drnsdad

02-26-2008 10:57:31

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Re: How do you tell the difference, Farmall H vs M? in reply to LenNH, 02-26-2008 10:48:51

Len, yeah I have had lots of good advice. The steering shaft is the easiest to recognize from a distance. The one I was looking at turned out to be a H. We had one when I was growing up till we sold it when I was about 12-13 (1976-1977). Yes, they are beautiful when the are freshly painted. One other comment, you can look at them in pictures all day long sometimes and not notices differences until either someone points them out or you see the 2 side by side..... Thanks again.

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Hugh MacKay

02-21-2008 14:26:24

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Re: How do you tell the difference, Farmall H vs M? in reply to drnsdad, 02-21-2008 05:47:10

Go to the YT photo gallery, type in H and look at several, then do the same with M. Then if you can't pick them out 1/4 mile away, you best see an optometrist. Most might think I'm joking, but I'm not.

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Andrew Kappers

02-21-2008 11:22:30

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Re: How do you tell the difference, Farmall H vs M? in reply to drnsdad, 02-21-2008 05:47:10

On the h, there should be a bracket for the battery box on the left hand side of the tractor that sticks out a little. On the m, the bottery box was right under the rear part of the gas tank right in front of the rear fuel tank bracket.

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mkirsch

02-21-2008 06:50:51

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Re: How do you tell the difference, Farmall H vs M? in reply to Andrew Z, 02-21-2008 05:47:10

That is definitely an H. Notice the steep steering shaft angle.

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Drnsdad

02-21-2008 06:33:10

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Re: How do you tell the difference, Farmall H vs M? in reply to drnsdad, 02-21-2008 05:47:10

Well from what yall are saying and what I see in the picks, this is an H according to the steering shaft. I uploaded a couple picks to the Help Identify photo gallery for easier answers.

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Allan In NE

02-21-2008 06:15:32

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Re: How do you tell the difference, Farmall H vs M? in reply to drnsdad, 02-21-2008 05:47:10

My wife can't tell the difference. This is a good thing. :>)

Allan

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Red Mist

02-21-2008 14:52:46

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Re: How do you tell the difference, Farmall H vs M? in reply to Allan In NE, 02-21-2008 06:15:32

HAW-HAW! Allan, you are a riot. But, I know exactly what you are saying. It is a very, very good thing - especially for married men - that all farmalls are red. Eh?
The more mud and muck there is between the house and the barn, the happier my marriage is.
mike

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drnsdad

02-21-2008 06:15:06

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Re: How do you tell the difference, Farmall H vs M? in reply to drnsdad, 02-21-2008 05:47:10

Many thanks for the quick replies. I have just seen several for sale lately and the people selling them did not know whether it was a H or a M. I have never been fortunate enough to have seen a M up close. We had an H when I was growing up some 30+ yrs ago and I loved it. It was a tank. Thanks, Robert

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Allan In NE

02-21-2008 06:17:28

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Re: How do you tell the difference, Farmall H vs M? in reply to drnsdad, 02-21-2008 06:15:06

Robert,

Look at the engine.

Lower radiator hose will be on the tractor's left if it is a H. On the right if it is a M.

Allan

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mkirsch

02-21-2008 06:10:50

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Re: How do you tell the difference, Farmall H vs M? in reply to IH2444, 02-21-2008 05:47:10

Yep, the H steering shaft goes up at quite an angle from the hood. The difference is very noticeable.

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little john

02-21-2008 06:03:42

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Re: How do you tell the difference, Farmall H vs M? in reply to drnsdad, 02-21-2008 05:47:10

From a distance, you can tell a difference in the angle of the steering wheel shaft and the hood...on the taller "M", the shaft is more nearly parallel to the hood.

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Nebraska Cowman

02-21-2008 06:02:52

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Re: How do you tell the difference, Farmall H vs M? in reply to drnsdad, 02-21-2008 05:47:10

The model will be on the serial number plate too. The H clutch pedal is nearly straight and the M pedal is more curved.

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Janicholson

02-21-2008 05:57:45

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Re: How do you tell the difference, Farmall H vs M? in reply to drnsdad, 02-21-2008 05:47:10

With a smile, Hs are female and Ms are male. The Designers at IH were very correct in making them almost identical visually. The size of the rear wheels and front wheels (not tires or rim width) are the same (most cases) thus the H will look more dainty with proportionally larger looking wheels. Casual distant viewing from "the road" can be innaccurate. JimN

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Red Mist

02-21-2008 14:47:57

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Re: How do you tell the difference, Farmall H vs M? in reply to Janicholson, 02-21-2008 05:57:45

Jim:
I've often had that same thought regarding gender of the H's and M's. It is somewhat humorous to look at them that way, but it almost seems to make sense, doesn't it?
mike

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Wayne in MN

02-21-2008 05:57:01

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Re: How do you tell the difference, Farmall H vs M? in reply to drnsdad, 02-21-2008 05:47:10

H battery is on the left side of the tractor, M battery is directly under the rear of the gas tank, M hood has a wing nut to hold the rear in place over the steering shaft.
Otherwise, the M is just a much larger scale in size and weight.

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justin14054

02-21-2008 05:52:37

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Re: How do you tell the difference, Farmall H vs M? in reply to drnsdad, 02-21-2008 05:47:10

I do not know the very specific ways.The size is the main give away for me.M's are much larger.The throttle contols are different on some years=don't know the specifics
Justin

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Harold H

02-21-2008 06:46:32

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Re: How do you tell the difference, Farmall H vs M? in reply to justin14054, 02-21-2008 05:52:37

When looking from a far distance just look at the steering shaft angle.

Harold H

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