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M farmall LP?

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BradA

02-29-2008 11:33:19




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I just came across a M farmall #FBK187632X1 and it had been running on propane. According to the stat sheets I can find only Super M's were propane. Did IH make some, or a conversion kit or is this tractor just a "homemade" conversion?

Any help would be appreciated.




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John A.

02-29-2008 21:31:22




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 Re: M farmall LP? in reply to BradA, 02-29-2008 11:33:19  
Brad, There keeps on being some good correct info and incorrect info on when IH first started "Factory Fuel" LP Opition on the M lineage of tractors.
There were no "Factory LP Fuel" opitiond tractors till the Super Ms! All regular ol run of the mill Ms were either Gas, Diesel, or Distillate! The serial # of the tractor you gave is X1 this denotes a "1949,Gas" fueled tractor. So this tractor is a conversion, either Farmer, IH Dealer or LP gas Dealer done!
The Super Ms Stage I and Stage II had the cross-wise tank with the Fill/Bleed and Liquid/Vapor valves faceing rearward. Just like the example of the SW4, on PP-107 in Guy Fays Letter series Book!
On the Super M Stage III, AKA....SMTA s. With the redesign of the (longer) Torque Tube to accomidate the TA unit. IH choose to go "out of house" for the LP systens. IH records are scares, to the point of non-existant. The info that is known of, has been put together from Old IH Employees, Mechanics, and Guys who went around the country converting them also. There were 500 tractors to be made, There were no known consecutive serial #, No rhyme or reason to the tractors used. The tank design that is more often than not that is seen on The SMTAs were the longwise tank with a mono-valve unit @ the 11:00 position at the rear of the tank (looking at the tank as if you were sitting in the seat). Tractors were sent to the Tank companies in Lubbock or San Angelo Texas less carburation and tanks. Tanks and Carburation were sent back to the factory for completion there. Also there is some info indicating that there were 4 other tank companies scattered throughout the South that did this work too. That is why for the different tank designed we sometimes find on these tractors.
The first truly redesigned for LP engines was not till the 400/450 series tractors. And this has to do with the Head more than anything else. That is why the Pullers want LP heads for their tractors.
Hope this helps,
Later,
John A.

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Andy Motteberg

02-29-2008 14:09:30




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 Re: M farmall LP? in reply to BradA, 02-29-2008 11:33:19  
Must have been converted to LP, Going by your serial number, it is not a Torque Amplifier tractor. The X1 means the tractor runs on Gasoline only. The tractor's year is 1949.

Andy.



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NDS

02-29-2008 12:58:16




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 Re: M farmall LP? in reply to BradA, 02-29-2008 11:33:19  
At one time a large percentage of Ms in cotton belt were on LP. Most that I knew of were converted by LP dealers or LP dealer sold parts for do it yourself conversion. About 6 or 8 years ago I counted 25 LP Ms and Super Ms on one catfish farm near Belzoni, MS. The tractors were being used to power portable pond aerrators. Couple of years ago I was back by farm and all but 2 or 3 of the LP tractors had been replaced by small late model diesels and equipment yard was full of cannabilized M carcasses.

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BradA

02-29-2008 13:10:01




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 Re: M farmall LP? in reply to NDS, 02-29-2008 12:58:16  
thank you for the information



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D Slater

02-29-2008 12:30:33




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 Re: M farmall LP? in reply to BradA, 02-29-2008 11:33:19  
Your correct the regular SM tractors could be LP. Your M started out as a gasoline and LP added. No LP M came from IH unless maybe a experimental.



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BradA

02-29-2008 13:10:29




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 Re: M farmall LP? in reply to D Slater, 02-29-2008 12:30:33  
thanks for the help



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BradA

02-29-2008 12:11:34




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 Re: M farmall LP? in reply to BradA, 02-29-2008 11:33:19  
So what does the serial # FBK187632X1 mean?

On the plate I just saw a M not a SM or TA.
Where is the torque handle if it is a TA? I didn't notice what I thought to be one.

Could it still be an SMTA?

thanks



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Allan In NE

02-29-2008 12:30:10




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 Re: M farmall LP? in reply to BradA, 02-29-2008 12:11:34  
1949 M built to run on gasoline.

Allan



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BradA

02-29-2008 13:10:54




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 Re: M farmall LP? in reply to Allan In NE, 02-29-2008 12:30:10  
thank you



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dej(jed)

02-29-2008 11:55:25




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 Re: M farmall LP? in reply to BradA, 02-29-2008 11:33:19  
As I understand it about 500 of the SMTA's were sent from IH to a factory in Texas for conversion to LP. They weren't really built by IH until the Farmall 400's.



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BradA

02-29-2008 13:15:09




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 Re: M farmall LP? in reply to dej(jed), 02-29-2008 11:55:25  
do you happen to know what company it was?



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Krazy-Ken

02-29-2008 17:27:05




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 Re: M farmall LP? in reply to BradA, 02-29-2008 13:15:09  
My SM LP has a S/N of F12014CJ.The C means LP. KEN



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