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J Wilbur

03-16-2008 07:49:19

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Hi all,

If you go into the "Help Identify" section under "Gallery", I posted some pictures of a tractor which I believe to be a Farmall or International. I have nver seen one like it, but many parts look like they are IH. The tractor sits low to the ground. It is built like a tank. The final drives which are normally mounted up and down (vertically) are mounted left to right (horizontally). Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Joe

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stewartinpa

03-16-2008 16:08:19

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Re: Help Identify this tractor in reply to J Wilbur, 03-16-2008 07:49:19

It is a shop mule

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Mike CA

03-16-2008 09:42:21

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Re: Help Identify this tractor in reply to J Wilbur, 03-16-2008 07:49:19

Either shop mule, as mentioned, or airport tractor. Hebard built both.
Some lucky duck found a U.S. Navy 1942 bomb hauling tractor at an auction in AZ last year. Man, I would love to have one of those, being in the Navy and all. 8)

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ScottyHOMEy

03-16-2008 09:24:12

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Re: Help Identify this tractor in reply to J Wilbur, 03-16-2008 07:49:19

Is this the tractor with the IAA serial number you were asking about down below?

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J Wilbur

03-16-2008 09:49:08

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Re: Help Identify this tractor in reply to ScottyHOMEy, 03-16-2008 09:24:12

Sorry, this is not the tractor with the IAA serial number. Disregard my other post.

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ScottyHOMEy

03-16-2008 10:13:32

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Re: Help Identify this tractor in reply to J Wilbur, 03-16-2008 09:49:08

Okay. Just wondered. A lot of the folks that built custom stuff like shop mules and tugs would modify them almost beyond recognition, but would leave the builder's serial plates on them. If it had been the same one, I was gonna say you might want to disregard the decal info!

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J Wilbur

03-16-2008 10:47:44

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Re: Help Identify this tractor in reply to ScottyHOMEy, 03-16-2008 10:13:32

Thanks Scotty.

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J Wilbur

03-16-2008 09:40:59

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Re: Help Identify this tractor in reply to ScottyHOMEy, 03-16-2008 09:24:12

Yes, the other tractor is mine also. Just like to see what i've got hanging around.

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TOPM

03-16-2008 09:07:36

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Re: Help Identify this tractor in reply to J Wilbur, 03-16-2008 07:49:19

i dont know what it is but if it is a shop mule what purpose did the tractor have in the first place , it wasnt built for rowcrop,

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Jim Becker

03-16-2008 08:51:23

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Re: Help Identify this tractor in reply to J Wilbur, 03-16-2008 07:49:19

It is a Shop Mule, either a model A-14 or A-21. It was built by WF Hebard using A components supplied by IH. I see that the Hebard ID plate is missing (should be on dash, above steering column).

Looks like a lot is missing. Rare enough that it may still be worth fixing if the parts could be found. I see several parts in the picture I could use on mine that I will probably have to have fabricated!

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J Wilbur

03-16-2008 10:51:35

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Re: Help Identify this tractor in reply to Jim Becker, 03-16-2008 08:51:23

I'd be happy to do measurements for you if you are going to fabricate parts. Do you have a picture of yours you could send. Also what was used for hoods and fenders? Farmall a sheetmetal? If so I happen to have a complete A I am using for parts. I could use the radiator, carb. and sheet metal for this one.

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gene bender

03-16-2008 08:49:17

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Re: Help Identify this tractor in reply to J Wilbur, 03-16-2008 07:49:19

Thats a shop mule looks like one that HEBERD built in CHICAGO needs to be restored. Where is this tractor and is it for sale?

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J Wilbur

03-16-2008 09:46:42

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Re: Help Identify this tractor in reply to gene bender, 03-16-2008 08:49:17

Gene,

The tractor is in NH. I will probably do a restoration on it, since it is rare. Maybe bring to a couple tractor shows. I will put it in the garage to keep out of the weather and begin to look for the missing parts. I honestly don't know what the worth of something like this would be. Maybe sell down the road. Currently have 20 tractors and want to sell a few off to concentrate on a couple of keepers. Thanks, Joe

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gene bender

03-16-2008 10:20:15

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Re: Help Identify this tractor in reply to J Wilbur, 03-16-2008 09:46:42

Yes i would buy it there is enough there that wouldnt be that hard to restore.

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J Wilbur

03-16-2008 10:52:40

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Re: Help Identify this tractor in reply to gene bender, 03-16-2008 10:20:15

Have any history on these?

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Steven f/AZ

03-16-2008 08:04:56

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Re: Help Identify this tractor -here's the pics in reply to J Wilbur, 03-16-2008 07:49:19

Here are the pics:

third party image

Looks to be based on a W-4 to me, at least the engine size seems to be of the H/W-4 variety. Not sure if IH made something like that or if it's one of those shop mules or some offshoot of one.

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J Wilbur

03-16-2008 10:55:14

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Re: Help Identify this tractor -here's the pics in reply to Steven f/AZ, 03-16-2008 08:04:56

Steven,

Thank you for posting the picures for me. Have any idea what year it is? Early 1940's? Was it used for towing?

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Steven f/AZ

03-16-2008 11:39:40

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Re: Help Identify this tractor -here's the pics in reply to J Wilbur, 03-16-2008 10:55:14

J Wilbur said: (quoted from post at 10:55:14 03/16/08) Steven,

Thank you for posting the picures for me. Have any idea what year it is? Early 1940's? Was it used for towing?

Find some casting numbers and we can help with the year (they should read like 8-16-L = august 16, 1942) Also, there should be a serial number on the block, right below the #1 spark plug or above the distributor/magneto.

I'm not sure what all the shop mules were used for, here are some photos of shop mules from the Tractor Photos to the left...

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J Wilbur

03-16-2008 12:33:24

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Re: Help Identify this tractor -here's the pics in reply to Steven f/AZ, 03-16-2008 11:39:40

These are the numbers above the distributor. I may not be 100 % because they were a bit tough to read. 157582

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Steven f/AZ

03-16-2008 13:26:06

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Re: Help Identify this tractor -here's the pics in reply to J Wilbur, 03-16-2008 12:33:24

J Wilbur said: (quoted from post at 12:33:24 03/16/08) These are the numbers above the distributor. I may not be 100 % because they were a bit tough to read. 157582

That number is for 1946 in the A/B/BN serial numbers.

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J Wilbur

03-16-2008 13:53:38

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Re: Help Identify this tractor -here's the pics in reply to Steven f/AZ, 03-16-2008 13:26:06

My parts tractor Farmall A happens to be a 1946, you think those parts would be considered original for this?

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