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still lost on super a hydraulics

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pork

03-27-2008 19:10:28




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i posted a message 0n 3-26-08 subject super a hydraulic/ touch control. i need more help to solve this issue, thanks in advance, ashley. feel free to call my shop if you need more info (606)845-1056




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Hugh MacKay

03-28-2008 02:48:22




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 Re: still lost on super a hydraulics in reply to pork, 03-27-2008 19:10:28  
Ashley: I didn't see your original thread, thus I'm going from this discussion between you and Jim. The best way to diagnose the control levers being out of adjustment, is running the tractor at low idle, then slowly move the hydraulic levers through their entire stroke. While doing this, listen for increased demand on the engine. What happens with these if rockshaft reaches end of it's stroke, before lever, then lever is trying to force it further, creating demand.

There are two adjustment on each lever; first it the yoke just below pivot of lever, which as long as the range is right will correct lever metering with rockshaft. The second adjustment is on bottom edge of touch control where activation linkage enters the unit, these can adjust the length of stroke, if that range is too long you could be getting demand at both ends of stroke.

This is covered very well in the IH Blue Ribbon hydraulic service manuals, for touch control hydraulics. Those seem to be quite rare, and the IT manual does a poor job describing this adjustment.

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Janicholson

03-27-2008 19:25:03




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 Re: still lost on super a hydraulics in reply to pork, 03-27-2008 19:10:28  
did you see my recent addition to that thread? JimN



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pork

03-27-2008 19:42:57




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 Re: still lost on super a hydraulics in reply to Janicholson, 03-27-2008 19:25:03  
jim, i saw no sign of leaking air.im confused about what you say going past the stops. how do i adjust. if youd e-mail your phone, id like to chat tommorrow if its convient, thanks ashley



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Janicholson

03-27-2008 19:56:34




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 Re: still lost on super a hydraulics in reply to pork, 03-27-2008 19:42:57  
I have seen (20 yrs ago) the stops in question, they control the location of the arms when the lever is in a given position. If they are out of adjustment, the system tries to move the arms farther and they are against the internal limit. thus oil is pumped past the pressure relief causing serious heating and foaming. If the pump is getting hot to the touch rapidly, this is likely the issue. If not, I suspect it was put together wrong. I am willing to talk, but I really respect current owner response on this more than my mediocre knowledge. The parts blowup in caseih.com diagrams (search for parts) is also going to show the stops. A manual will also do more good than a call. (really) JimN

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Janicholson

03-27-2008 20:41:13




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 Re: still lost on super a hydraulics in reply to pork, 03-27-2008 20:09:58  
Though possible, I rather doubt it. The foaming is either air gettinto suction side of pump, or froth from relief pressure valve bypass (opinion) Jim



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