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How to change rear tire?

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Bill Thompson

04-10-2008 07:01:54




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I would like to get new rear tires for my 450. When you loosen tire (rim) bolts do they push back off the rim? If so you don't have to lift tire much right? What about install? Thanks Bill




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Clefus

04-10-2008 19:38:51




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 Re: How to change rear tire? in reply to Bill Thompson, 04-10-2008 07:01:54  
Gemplers have a real informative section on their website.....

I have done tires off the tractor and it wanst that pleasant.....



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Randy in NE

04-10-2008 10:10:44




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 Re: How to change rear tire? in reply to Bill Thompson, 04-10-2008 07:01:54  
I had a new rear tire put on my C about 6 years ago. They came to my brothers shop and for $25.00 they replaced it. It was the best $25.00 that I ever spent. It was a hot, humid August day and by the time he ground the rust out of the rim he was orange. The best part was - the new tire was a perfect match for the other back tire. All by accident.



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Nebraska Cowman

04-10-2008 09:08:09




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 Re: How to change rear tire? in reply to Bill Thompson, 04-10-2008 07:01:54  
There is no reason to take the rims off the tractor.



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BOBM25

04-10-2008 08:39:50




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 Re: How to change rear tire? in reply to Bill Thompson, 04-10-2008 07:01:54  
Bill, do you want to actually break the tire off the rim and do it all yourself? If you do, try letting the rim on the tractor. Jack up 1 side and do 1 tire at a time. I've found its alot easier than working on the ground with the tire laying flat.



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NDS

04-10-2008 08:05:11




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 Re: How to change rear tire? in reply to Bill Thompson, 04-10-2008 07:01:54  
Have been changing tires for over 50 years and my experience with UNLOADED tires is 4 ply easy, 6 ply a little harder, and 8 ply or better too much for do it your self.



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ScottyHOMEy

04-10-2008 07:53:02




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 Re: How to change rear tire? in reply to Bill Thompson, 04-10-2008 07:01:54  
One big caution, here.

If the tires are loaded (with CaCl, water, antifreeze, beet juice, whatever) everything Allan said goes double. Don't try to manhandle a loaded rear tire. You'll lose.

IFFF they're not loaded, yes, the bolts holding the rims to the wheels will allow you take the tire and rim directly off, as long as the brackets on the rim are mounted on the outside of the wheel.

If they're mounted to the inside, call the tireman and have him come out and do the job right on the tractor like ALlan suggested. I don't remember the configuration of the brackets on the 450, and maybe you could finagle them off, but you run a chance in tryin' of knockin your tractor off your blocking, jack or jack stand and then you'd have a real mess. You'll need to jack it higher and let it back down onto blocks to do it right, and the blocks need to be the right height to allow you to slip the rim with the new tire back on. Don't be hossin' tires off and on with the tractor resting on jacks or stands.

ONLY if the tires aren't loaded AND ONLY if the lugs/brackets are to the outside of the wheel AND ONLY if you have enough wood blocking (IT takes auite a lot to cross-stack up to the bottom of the axle on an 450) to support the tractor while you're hossin' tires and rims off and on would I say it would be okay to take them off yourself and drive them to the tire shop. Otherwise, have the pros come pay a visit.

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GordoSD

04-10-2008 07:26:16




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 Re: How to change rear tire? in reply to Bill Thompson, 04-10-2008 07:01:54  
It's easy unless the tires are loaded. If they are loaded take Allen's advice. If not jack up one side,tire just barely off the ground; crib. Then remove the nuts and clamps.Here is where your air impact will really help out.Leave the bolts and jam nuts in place. Pulling at 10 and 2 o'clock ease the tire and rim out and off the wheel. Walk the bottom out. Doesn't hurt to have a helper but it can easily and safely be done alone.Keep it vertical and roll it to wherever you are going to change the tire. Install is juat as simple. Roll the new tire and rim up to the wheel, and walk the bottom in place and then push the top on. Now is a good time when you have the tires off to apply new argent silver paint to those rims. And new 2150 on the wheels while the rims are off. Let us know how it goes.

Gordo

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Allan In NE

04-10-2008 07:08:39




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 Re: How to change rear tire? in reply to Bill Thompson, 04-10-2008 07:01:54  
Bill,

Save yourself some grief and call the tire man.

He'll haul the tires out to you, do the job right on the tractor in about 30 minutes and have it all over and done with because he has the proper tools/experience.

If you aren't keen on doing that; haul the tractor to him.

Allan



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willL

04-10-2008 20:14:22




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 Re: How to change rear tire? in reply to Allan In NE, 04-10-2008 07:08:39  
Had two 34 inch rear tires put on last fall out on the farm. Both "loaded". Took about 1.5 hours. Made it look easy till I got the bill-----$350.00. What is the going rate in your area?



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Red Mist

04-10-2008 16:02:57




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 Re: How to change rear tire? in reply to Allan In NE, 04-10-2008 07:08:39  
Correct-O, Allan.
mike



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JTinNJ

04-10-2008 10:47:50




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 Re: How to change rear tire? in reply to Allan In NE, 04-10-2008 07:08:39  
Allen,You could not give better advice.



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mkirsch

04-10-2008 11:33:43




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 Re: How to change rear tire? in reply to JTinNJ, 04-10-2008 10:47:50  
Another vote for not taking the rim off the tractor.
It's MUCH easier to work on the tires while they're attached to a large immoveable weight. You've got something to pry against, and you can do all the work standing up...

Changing tractor rears is a LOT different than changing a car tire.

I'm wondering how I'm going to get these tires I bought off their rims WITHOUT them being attached to a tractor.

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dhermesc

04-10-2008 14:16:09




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 Re: How to change rear tire? in reply to mkirsch, 04-10-2008 11:33:43  
"It's MUCH easier to work on the tires while they're attached to a large immoveable weight. You've got something to pry against, and you can do all the work standing up..."


Agreed - as long as you have the tractor well blocked and immobile.

Did you buy them for the tires or for the rims? If for the rims I've found it easier to just cut the tires off with a sawzall. Some times even then the bead stays stuck.

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Eastsider

04-10-2008 13:09:47




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 Re: How to change rear tire? in reply to mkirsch, 04-10-2008 11:33:43  
Here is a picture during the restoration of my H. I jacked up both sides at the same time, cleaned and painted the rims, and then installed them myself...it was a relatively easy process with the rims attached...

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