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first time buying from a dealer ~ tips

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arod

04-16-2008 13:09:19




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There is a ford TW-30 that I have caught interest in at the local John Deere dealership. The tractor has 7900 hours but appears to be in great shape, and has the dealers' sticker on the side of it, as if the same dealership serviced that tractor for the last 5 or 10 years of use.

Now, I have NEVER purchased a tractor from a dealer. Have purchased cars from auto dealers though of course. Similar ?

What are common practice, succesful negotions comprised of at a dealer on a used tractor?

Of course I would ask they:

  • run the tractor in all gears

  • attach the 3pt to something on their lot and lift and down pressure it

  • attach the PTO to an implement and spin it

  • test out all the cab options, including the AC on a warm day =)

But little things like broken door handles, mangled steps to the cab, missing headlights, missing top link for 3pt, etc...

Is it frowned upon to get picky and ask they repair a few of these items upon purchase deal?

Like, they are asking 8,900 for the tractor. Is it reasonable to ask they include the top link and fix the door if I pay their asking price?

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dave guest

04-16-2008 19:07:59




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 Re: first time buying from a dealer ~ tips in reply to arod, 04-16-2008 13:09:19  
Do a little price comparison shopping, unless you need it overnight. See what this tractor or similar would cost from an individual. You may need a mechanic to go with you, but its worth it. My tip for buying from a dealer of course is NOT.



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the tractor vet

04-16-2008 16:06:27




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 Re: first time buying from a dealer ~ tips in reply to arod, 04-16-2008 13:09:19  
Myself i am not much of a Ford man because i do not like the engine as they have no sleeves and when it is time for a rebuild it is a major job with boring the block . Also ya may just want to take a jar of grease with ya so it does not hurt so bad.



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GordoSD

04-16-2008 15:12:08




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 Re: first time buying from a dealer ~ tips in reply to arod, 04-16-2008 13:09:19  
Arod, I thought I read you are knocking down 14 million a year. What's $8900, about one inning's worth of strikeouts?

Gordo



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arod

04-16-2008 21:09:58




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 Re: first time buying from a dealer ~ tips in reply to GordoSD, 04-16-2008 15:12:08  
Way off...
This will make you cry, get out the kleenex.

But hey, we all want a fair deal no matter our salary, ha ha

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mkirsch

04-17-2008 04:57:31




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 Re: first time buying from a dealer ~ tips in reply to arod, 04-16-2008 21:09:58  
"things like broken door handles, mangled steps to the cab, missing headlights, missing top link for 3pt, etc..."

Those, and "great shape" do not belong in the same description of a tractor. Those are indications of a tractor that's been used hard and probably has more wrong with it than is apparent.
This isn't like a car dealership. At a car dealership you can demand that little things be fixed, and they'll usually do it to seal the deal. You buy used tractors AS IS. You buy the previous owner's problems, and all the little stuff is yours to fix. The price of the tractor already reflects (in the dealer's mind anyway) the condition of the tractor.

One thing about dealers is that they'll generally let you give the tractor a good workout on your farm if they feel there's a good chance they can sell it to you. If your close enough to drive the tractor home, even better.

In my experience, dealers with used tractors are the worst. If the price is reasonable, the tractor is junk. If the tractor is good, the price is outrageous, and non-negotiable.

My advice: Run, don't walk, away and try to forget about it.

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FM

04-16-2008 13:17:43




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 Re: first time buying from a dealer ~ tips in reply to arod, 04-16-2008 13:09:19  
If you think the price deserves a perfect condition tractor, add up the parts you think it needs and try to get them to knock that much off the price or throw the parts in the deal. I would be weary of having them fix too much stuff as they will likely put the greenest mechanic in the shop on it. I know a guy who went through this on a steiger and in the end he had to buy the parts again and fix it right himself, along with some things the mechanic screwed up while "fixing" the items he wanted. This was a Deere dealer also.

Mike

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