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w croom

04-24-2008 17:48:28




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I"ve posted this question before. I printed out the answers. I lost the pages I printed.

I have a "54 Super A that has about 1/2 turn of free play in the steering. It seems to tighten up when the front wheels are in a bind, like when I"m in mud, or a wheel rut. Do I need a steering gear, or is there something I can tighten up? Anybody willing to share the fix for this one? Please?




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gene bender

04-25-2008 03:54:20




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 Re: super A steering in reply to w croom, 04-24-2008 17:48:28  
Drop the drag links and thke a calipers and check them to see how bad they are egg-shaped. I use a grinder and sanding disc to make them round again then when you set them for clearence and turn from left to right they wont bind.



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chuck davis

04-25-2008 03:46:56




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 Re: super A steering in reply to w croom, 04-24-2008 17:48:28  
i just went through this ordeal on my A. If you only have 1/2 turn of play(much like mine) it will probably be the steering gear arm and needs to be tightened. It is a major pain to get to and hard to really tighten properly. I took my axle off,redid all the seals and bushings in the gearbox. The woodruft key was tight as a drum. I also cut 1/16 of an inch off the slot where the bolt goes through the steering gear arm,this allows you to tighten it up more since it has probably been wrenched on many times and like mine the slot had been pulled nearly closed.
The problem with of binding could be in the tie-rod ends,if they are adjustable you have to play around with them until tight but if you overtighten them they will bind,and of course grease or lack thereof will cause it to bind.

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Hugh MacKay

04-25-2008 02:40:44




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 Re: super A steering in reply to w croom, 04-24-2008 17:48:28  
w croom: Is there any end to end movement on the steering shaft? That would indicate bad bearings on that shaft. It might also contribute to the binding your getting. If there is no end movement on shaft, don't bother to take it apart. In other words, "If it ain't broke don't fix it."

90% of the time loose steering in these is created by worn woodruff keys in the vertical shaft of the steering box. The steering control arm has a woodruff key on a tapered shaft and can often be cured by tightening nut on bottom. With the right wrench I have managed to tighten that nut without removing the front end. The other woodruff key on that shaft is inside thae steering box keying gear to shaft. I have seen those two woodruff keys give 1-1/2 turns of free travel on steering wheel.

Very seldom will you find the internal worm and gear worn enough to affect steering.

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wcroom

04-24-2008 18:31:04




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 Re: super A steering in reply to w croom, 04-24-2008 17:48:28  
OK, I thought I asked the question here before, but through searching my name, it seems I didn"t.
Back to the original question: What can I do?



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rbuckel

04-24-2008 18:28:58




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 Re: super A steering in reply to w croom, 04-24-2008 17:48:28  
My 47 A had the same problem. The arm from bottom of steering gearbox to tie rod assembly was loose on shaft. I was able to repair, but hardest part was removing the pin that holds front axle so I could drop bottom of gearbox to gain access. The steering gearbox itself was ok. After reassembly I filled steering gearbox with regular tube (3 tubes) grease (info I gleaned from this forum). I also replaced the bronze bushing and gasket in bottom of gearbox (picked up at local Case/IH dealer). Works great. If you don't have a manual you should get one. Some of the pros on this site may know an easier fix.

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tn terry t

04-24-2008 18:04:02




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 Re: super A steering in reply to KEITH SHAW, 04-24-2008 17:48:28  
YOU can do a search "look close to top of the page with what ever name you used to find the old post



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