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1947 Farmall A possible fuel system problem?

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Bryan Monaco

04-30-2008 17:17:39




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I recently bought a 1947 Farmall A. This is my first tractor so I don't know much about them.

The tractor starts and runs great for a while. It will sit and idle all day, but after driving it a short bit it begins to sputter,jerk, and miss. It will die, like it runs out of gas. It will start right back up again and do the same thing after a few minutes. Just before this happens You can increase the throttle and nothing happens.It happens in any gear. Today I drove it and it was cold and was great. Then it crapped out when it got hot. It started again and ran great for a while then it died. Later it didn't run well cold, but would run hot. There is plenty of fuel in the sediment jar. I took the carb apart and blew it out, but the same thing happens. I think that it may not be getting enough fuel in the carb. When I remove the line from the carb and I turn on the gas how much should pour out? I get a heavy drip that will fill a shot glass in about a minute. Is that enough? I would think it should be a faster flow.

This sounds like a fuel system problem to me. I sprayed carb spay around areas of possible leaks while running and there was no increase or decrease in RPM. I would think if there was an ignition problem it would be more often than sometimes. However, as a automobile technician I have never worked on a magneto before. I also have never worked with an updraft carb before.

Does anyone have any ideas?

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Bryan Monaco

05-01-2008 15:49:15




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 Re: 1947 Farmall A possible fuel system problem? in reply to Bryan Monaco, 04-30-2008 17:17:39  
Thanks for the advice. I drained the tank and took out the sediment bowl assembly. It had some crud in the top. I blew it out with my compressor and it flows gas like a champ. I drove it up to the gas station and around for a few miles and it ran great.



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Janicholson

05-01-2008 19:05:09




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 Re: 1947 Farmall A possible fuel system problem? in reply to Bryan Monaco, 05-01-2008 15:49:15  
Cool Beans. JimN



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dave guest

04-30-2008 20:00:24




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 Re: 1947 Farmall A possible fuel system problem? in reply to Bryan Monaco, 04-30-2008 17:17:39  
Take that line that you removed and put a rubber hose on it and blow back into the tank. Do not swallow gas. Easy and fast. If you can't blow through it, use compressed air. Done this many times with old tractors.



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Janicholson

05-01-2008 05:36:18




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 Re: 1947 Farmall A possible fuel system problem? in reply to dave guest, 04-30-2008 20:00:24  
I would also blow through the line, but i would take it off of both ends first. If the glop in the line is blown back into the tank, it is going to go back through the line again and plug it up. Not a flame, just advice. Jim



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Janicholson

04-30-2008 17:41:25




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 Re: 1947 Farmall A possible fuel system problem? in reply to Bryan Monaco, 04-30-2008 17:17:39  
In addition to what the others correctly predict, there is a screen in the fitting at the carb inlet that can be plugged solid. The stream of fuel comming out of the seat (float control with no needle in it, and the bowl of carb off) should be filling a soup can in 30 seconds or less. JimN



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El Toro

04-30-2008 17:41:16




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 Re: 1947 Farmall A possible fuel system problem? in reply to Bryan Monaco, 04-30-2008 17:17:39  
Look down inside that gas tank with a flashlight and see if its full of rust and dirt. You may need to pull the tank if it has krud in there so you can clean it. The gas line, sediment bowl all need to be cleaned. You should get a full stream of gas from that gas line. Hal



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Bryan Monaco

04-30-2008 17:44:52




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 Re: 1947 Farmall A possible fuel system problem? in reply to El Toro, 04-30-2008 17:41:16  
The fuel tank is nice and shiney inside. No debris or gunk is visable.



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El Toro

05-01-2008 03:42:28




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 Re: 1947 Farmall A possible fuel system problem? in reply to Bryan Monaco, 04-30-2008 17:44:52  
You should have a full stream of gas from gas line
with tank being clean at the carburetor. There may be a screen behind the fitting where your gas line connects to the carburetor. It could be full of crud blocking the fuel flow. Hal



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ih560

04-30-2008 18:57:26




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 Re: 1947 Farmall A possible fuel system problem? in reply to Bryan Monaco, 04-30-2008 17:44:52  

Bryan Monaco said: (quoted from post at 17:44:52 04/30/08) The fuel tank is nice and shiney inside. No debris or gunk is visable.


Best bet is to go ahead and take the gas line , elbow filter screen and the sediment bowl assembly off and blow everything out really good with an air compressor. You may also want to take the carb apart and clean the main jet, Bowl Vent, idle jet and fuel valve really good with carb cleaner. It doesn't take a very big piece of crud to cause problems in there. You can even blow a light amount of air with the compressor back through all the ports in the carb to push all the crap out.

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Jossette

04-30-2008 17:24:46




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 Re: 1947 Farmall A possible fuel system problem? in reply to Bryan Monaco, 04-30-2008 17:17:39  
could be the line from the sediment bowl to the carb. The sediment filter could be pluged or the tank has a lot of crap settled to the bottom and plugging your sediment



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glennster

04-30-2008 17:22:42




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 Re: 1947 Farmall A possible fuel system problem? in reply to Bryan Monaco, 04-30-2008 17:17:39  
should have more flow than that. prolly some crud in the fuel tank that floats around, then gets plugged up in the pickup on top of the sediment bowl. my farmall b did that, turns out there was a soy bean in the gas tank, kept getting sucked in, then when the tractor died, it would fall off the tube.



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Bryan Monaco

04-30-2008 17:40:06




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 Re: 1947 Farmall A possible fuel system problem? in reply to glennster, 04-30-2008 17:22:42  
The tank looks rather clean. However I was not impressed with the condition of the sediment bowl's base (or top I guess). There was a fair amount of corrosion on the metal. Maybe some is blocking the hole. Is there anything I should look for or becareful of when I pull off the sediment bowl housing?

I will take a look for something getting stuck in there, like that bean. I have seen screens on automotivegas tank fuel pumps get clogged with debris and when the car (pump) shuts off it falls off.

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