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Dan Swanson

05-11-2008 15:39:42




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Posted last weeek that I had a lot of chatter in both brakes on my 856. Was suggested I clean out the small holes to let the dry matter out. Crawled under the tractor and use a small wire to open them up on the left side that chattered the most after I opened up both holes I got some black dirty wet oil on the wire. The holes are clear now no oil actually ran out of them. Just a drip or two. This tactor has several minor leaks above and ahead of the brake covers. DOes this mean there is a seal somewhere that is letting the oil into the brake disks? Also, as I mentioned before when I pulled the transaxle plugs they seemed to be way over full but I didn't drain them down to the top plug level. Could some of this oil be causing the problem from being over full?
Thanks, Dan

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mazemeister

05-13-2008 18:59:33




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 Re: '69 856 brakes.... in reply to Dan Swanson, 05-11-2008 15:39:42  
I just went through a similar procedure with the 806- I think the brakes would be the same on the 56. As for the brakes- there are a couple o rings and i think an oil seal to keep the oil in the trans and the brake discs dry. Your IH dealer would have a kit for that. If your disks are oil soaked, might as well replace them too. Not sure if it would cause chatter, but I replaced discs and o rings, now have brakes on both sides- RH never used to work.

On the axle housings- I changed the oil on our other 806 a couple weeks ago, pretty sure it was the first time it was ever drained. I took out a good 4 gal between the two sides, book calls for 5 qt each. It doesn't seem like it's hurt anything to be over full- that won't affect the brakes anyway.

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Chuck46

05-11-2008 19:55:59




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 Re: '69 856 brakes.... in reply to Dan Swanson, 05-11-2008 15:39:42  
Dan, Been busy missed your posts. I don't think oil would do this, but a lineing worn done to the steel might.I would pull the brakes off and find out what condition they are in, I have found the linings will wear off completely before they will quit. They are not hard to replace, owners manual gives instructions.And I am lost when you mention transaxle plugs and oil level there, where are they? I am sure the tractor is made to maintain the right amount of oil in all of it's compartments. All I have ever gone by is the dipstick and the six drain plugs on the bottom when I change the oil. Good luck, Chuck

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Dan Swanson

05-12-2008 06:40:25




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 Rear Axle Carriers... in reply to Chuck46, 05-11-2008 19:55:59  
Chuck46, sorry about that, I removed one of the fill plugs other day and it was definately over full but I didn't drain it down. I thought maybe being too full might lead to oil getting into the brakes. The oil looked clean that came out of the carrier. If I would drain it down to the fill hole it should hold at that level right? If it raises can I assume there is a seal or something out between it and the transmission? Or is it something to even worry about?
Thanks, Dan

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Dan Swanson

05-12-2008 10:24:11




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 Per the manual they are called Rear Axle Carriers... in reply to Dan Swanson, 05-12-2008 06:40:25  
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Chuck46

05-12-2008 08:30:57




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 Re: Rear Axle Carriers... in reply to Dan Swanson, 05-12-2008 06:40:25  
Dan, Do you have a high clearance model or what is a transaxle and where are the plugs? Chuck



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Dan Swanson

05-12-2008 10:22:27




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 Re: Rear Axle Carriers... in reply to Chuck46, 05-12-2008 08:30:57  
Chuck, It is a regular row crop 856. Not a high crop. The 3/4" square headed plugs are at the rear of the axle housing about 3" lower than the bottom of the axle and about 8" or so behind the axle. In the service manual it shows the plugs as items #43 on the lub/maint. schedule towards the rear part of the book. Dan



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Chuck46

05-12-2008 13:57:37




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 Re: Rear Axle Carriers... in reply to Dan Swanson, 05-12-2008 10:22:27  
Dan, They must have changed the rear axle housing, I found the spot but mine is not drilled or threaded it is just a flat bump on the casting. The book must have been changed too, No 43 in mine is the check plug for a high clearance. My tractor is F 856D CU 22759 S-Y it was new in June 69. Chuck



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Dan Swanson

05-12-2008 19:27:31




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 My Serial # is 20318 SY... in reply to Chuck46, 05-12-2008 13:57:37  
Thought somebody might chime in and let me know if the oil level is important. Appreciate your help. Thanks Dan



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Chuck46

05-12-2008 20:40:30




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 Re: My Serial # is 20318 SY... in reply to Dan Swanson, 05-12-2008 19:27:31  
Dan, I don,t think the oil would cause any problem with the brakes, the extra must be coming from inside the tractor because it is very difficult to overfill a side plug. My guess is if you drained it down it woulld soon come back. I never have figured out where the oil is, there is 20 gallons in there somewhere but when you change the filter which is close to the bottom you only have less than a galon. They are very good tractors, also have a 756D with 10,000 hrs, the 856 is going towards 17. Good luck, Chuck

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