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ltonne

03-23-2005 22:28:01




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anyone have any dealings with this kentuckian




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Ted Klee

03-28-2005 16:37:54




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 Re: d clubb in reply to ltonne, 03-23-2005 22:28:01  
I bought a plow from Dean, and he was good to work with, arranged shipment of the plow for me and I was satisfied with the whole experience. I would buy from him again.



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prairiedeere

03-24-2005 17:02:00




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 Re: d clubb in reply to ltonne, 03-23-2005 22:28:01  
Called him one time about a tractor he had for sale. I gave him a bid on it and he told me in a smart tail way that when somebody goes down on his price he goes up on his and hung up on me. I have never had that happen to me and I have made alot of deals over the years. I guess he didn't care about what else I had to say. You be the Judge!



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GITOAD

04-05-2005 16:49:20




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 Re: d clubb in reply to prairiedeere, 03-24-2005 17:02:00  
Well, I have bought and sold over the internet and indeed have been ripped off by Tim and Gary Gray and inquired of Dean about a tractor. Whether buying or selling I do my best to be friendly and I sure wish more folks out there would do the same. In my case, Dean"s reply was short and curt and lacking of the normal conversation that often takes place with people in this hobby.I have the feeling it is because he may be sick of non serious inquiries and people more caught up in the "deal" than the tractor they are getting. On the other hand if you are in the business...The fact is we could all make this a more enjoyable hobby by simply treating one another with at least some amount of courtesy. The internet has opened up a huge marketplace where we can easily inquire about a tractor and communicate their condition with pictures.Email can not communicate tone or percieved intent and is often the source of bad feelings, so beware!It is ironic that it is the tractor jockeys and dealers that seem to be getting the brunt of the very worst of the feedback and from my experience they deserve it!

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tractorman1

03-30-2005 05:42:59




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 Re: d clubb in reply to prairiedeere, 03-24-2005 17:02:00  
We hear a lot about the seller that ripped off the buyer. There is an equal problem with a buyer that tries to buy good stuff at way under the going price. If you would not sell it for that cheap, you should not be bothered if someone will not take your lowball rip off offer.
I think many of us get used to "making an offer", thinking that we get a better deal. What we have really done is made most people ask more than they really want, so we are not getting a better deal at all most of the time, we are just playing a foolish game. If someone is firm on a price, either buy it or move on. It is their right to ask whatever they want. When you own it, you can ask what you want, which I am sure will be more than you paid for it.
"Don't ask me to drop and I won't ask you for more" is as fair as saying, "I can't price another man's stuff", yet, the same guy will make an offer lower than what the owner ask.

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Prairiedeere

03-30-2005 11:27:34




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 Re: d clubb in reply to tractorman1, 03-30-2005 05:42:59  
I had no problem with this man being firm on his price. That is all he had to tell me. When I called and asked the man about the tractor he just acted like I was a waste of time. I just put a offer out and and he just went up and then hung up! I might have just bought the tractor anyway and had in mind that I would. I just have not ever been done like that buy anybody that I have called from this site. I guess I was just shocked, maybe this man was just have a bad day. He may be a fine fellow but if your going to be a tractor jockey (and he is) you need to know how to deal with a maybe buyer better. On the point of giving the asking price how many of you have gone to the local car lot and payed the asking price on a new or used car? What is the differance here? I have met many, many nice people from the web site and most love the game of trading. This day in age we don't get to take our "mules" to the court house on trading day we post them here on the internet.

Mr. Clubb, I talked to you one night on the phone in 2002. You don't know my name because you did not care when I told you who I was or where I was from. I want to tell you that I am very sorry for calling you and tring to by the little JD you had for sale for $200 less that you were asking I was just doing things the way my father showed me as a young child. We always wanted more than we were getting for cows, hogs, grain, tractor, ect. and we always tried to buy things for less. I hope that this forum has not hurt you. I just wished that you had not hung up on me.

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Bobl58

03-30-2005 08:17:09




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 Re: d clubb in reply to tractorman1, 03-30-2005 05:42:59  
So what you are saying is better to pay the asking price and not try to save money? Even if you buy several hundred things a year? It's like you say, it's kind of the American Way. Most of the time people ask way more than it is worth in case some idiot is willing to pay it. If not, they will settle for what they can get. The bottom line is the SELLER dictates what he is willing to settle for, the discription of the part verses actual, as well as conditions of the sell. I don't believe the fellow cared that he wouldn't take his low offer, it was the fact he hung up on him that offended him. I have no problems with dclubb. Probably a great guy. But if you get tired of people low-ballin you, you better get out of the business of selling practally anything.

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Deeredale

03-30-2005 19:00:45




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 Re: d clubb in reply to Bobl58, 03-30-2005 08:17:09  
Dickering on a price back & forth is half the fun of this hobby. The art of "horse trading" has been around allot longer then any of us on this page & will be around for many years after us.



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tractorman1

03-31-2005 06:12:23




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 Re: d clubb in reply to Deeredale, 03-30-2005 19:00:45  
I stand somewhat corrected in that I missed the part about the seller abruptly hanging up. But then to be fair, we would have to know exactly what was said and how it was said on both sides to make a good decision. I think we have only heard one side. I have never hung up on anyone, nor have I had them hang up on me. We always end on a good note.
My point about low balling is that some of the ones that scream on here are the very ones that want to low ball someone, and get it cheap, BUT, they do not like it when it is done to them. I understand horsetrading as well as the next guy, but you must remember that what goes around, comes around, it is not all about you. It is all about all of us that enjoy the hobby. It was not so long ago that most folks would get one of these, get it going, and make a little on it. Now, there are folks trying to buy them for 10 year old prices and sell them at a retirement wage. Don't be too proud if you make a bundle because you found some sucker that did not know any better. We all answer to a higher power than our bank accounts.

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