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Dimensions for a Hood retainer

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DouroBob

08-20-2002 08:19:14




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Hi I have a 1951 Fergie 2085 and I discovered a few months ago that when I lift the hood to fill the gas tank there is supposed to be a retainer that keeps the hood from travelling all the way forward and resting with its nose on the floor. I believe it is a U shaped device with a flat bottom and it attaches to the gas tank at the bottom part while the two uprights attach to either side of the hood on the inside.

Does anyone have the exact dimensions of this item and do you know where I could see pictures or diagrams of how exactly it attaches.

Thanks
Bob

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phil fenner

08-20-2002 21:14:12




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 Re: Dimensions for a Hood retainer in reply to DouroBob, 08-20-2002 08:19:14  
Phil(VA), do you know where to get such a bumper or the design to make one?

Phil(WA)



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Phil (VA)

08-21-2002 07:19:02




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 Re: Re: Dimensions for a Hood retainer in reply to phil fenner, 08-20-2002 21:14:12  
Here is a pic of one I have on a TO-30. This pic is in the "Tractor Photos" section with link at left. So you might find others there as well. If you don't want to copy and paste this long link you can just go to tractor photos and search for "ferg" and you probably will find several. I don't have measurements handy, but it would be easy to make. Link

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Phil (VA)

08-20-2002 13:37:47




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 Re: Dimensions for a Hood retainer in reply to DouroBob, 08-20-2002 08:19:14  
A proper Ferguson bumper will do the same thing and give you the added advantage of having a bumper, which apparently you don't have at the moment. It has to be the Ferguson style though, not a Ford bumper, in order for the hood to go forward correctly.



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DouroBob

08-21-2002 09:12:37




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 Re: Re: Dimensions for a Hood retainer in reply to Phil (VA), 08-20-2002 13:37:47  
Hi Phil
Thanks for the bumper picture but I think we are talking about two different items here. I am referring to a piece of metal that fits under the hood and attaches at the gas tank and at the inside edges of the hood on either side and acts as a limiter when the hood is lifted to refuel.

Bob



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Douro Bob

08-21-2002 04:15:43




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 Re: Re: Dimensions for a Hood retainer in reply to Phil (VA), 08-20-2002 13:37:47  
Ah, so it is called a "Bumper" - does anyone have the dimensions for the Fergie 2085 model? I am confident my machine shop friend can make one but the dimensions would make the trail and error part of the job a lot easier.
Thanks



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Jim W

08-21-2002 10:11:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Dimensions for a Hood retainer in reply to Douro Bob, 08-21-2002 04:15:43  
Douro Bob,
I have two 2085s and they both have these. I would have called them "stays" myself. I can measure them for you when I get home. As I recall though the ends of the rods have a head on them that slides in the tracks; these may be tricky to make (they're like a large nail, kind of).
Do you have those tracks that the ends slide in on the sides of the hood? How about the bracket that attaches to the front of the gas tank? Doesn't sound like you have that.
Franktown Jim

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DouroBob

08-21-2002 11:51:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Dimensions for a Hood retainer in reply to Jim W, 08-21-2002 10:11:21  
Hi Jim
I am pretty sure I have the "track" on the hood but I do not have the part that attached to the gas tank and slides in the hood. Dimensions would be helpful if you get a chance.
BTW - did the mixer photos turn out? And exactly where is Franktown.

Bob



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Jim W

08-22-2002 17:56:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dimensions for a Hood retainer in reply to DouroBob, 08-21-2002 11:51:42  
Hi Bob,
Here are the measurements, as nearly as I could get them.

A B E F
|-- --| \ / \ / \ / \ / \____/ C D

B-C and D-E: 10 3/4"
A-B and E-F: 0.96"
C-D: 4 7/8"
A-F: 19 5/8"
B-E: 17 3/4"

How the measurements work:
A-B and E-F are taken from the outside edge of the "nail head" to the middle of the bend.
A-F is outside-outside.
B-C, C-D, B-E, and D-E are taken from the middle of the bends.

Now the "nail heads" were tough. Their thickness is somewhere between 0.2" and 0.25". I would err toward the smaller dimension. Their diameter seems to be 0.565", but I was measuring the "non-working" i.e. exposed dimension, parallel to the track in which they travel. (To call it a diameter assumes it is round, but if the dimension at 90 degrees to the one I measured was less, how would we know it wasn't from wear? Surely it started out round!) For comfort, you can measure inside your tracks. Mine are a loose fit and there doesn't seem to be any reason to have them any tighter.

Finally, eyeballing the included angle of B-C and D-E, it is definitely less than 90 degrees - I would estimate 70. Of course the overall width is what matters.

(While in there I happened to notice that the rod that holds the top ofthe rad to the thermostat housing is the same 5/16" diameter stuff.)

Now as far as attaching the rod to the gas tank - as I mentioned there is a piece of sheet metal wrapped around section C-D. Its bend faces forward, and the open side goes under the lip in the tank. The two holes for the bolts are evenly spaced and the bolts themselves are 1/4", by 1" long I think. 3/4" would likely be enough if that's what you have around. On my tractor the heads of the bolts are underneath, which works well as they tend to stay put when you tighten the nuts, since the heads are contained in the deformed sheet metal. It is 4 1/2" long. I measured from the edge under the gas tank lip to the forward-most part of the bend, and got 0.885". From this I would take it that it started out 2" wide. It's 0.089" thick, and when I look this up, that makes it about 13 gauge....

I hope that does it. Let us know how it turns out. If you get it to work you could probably go into business!
Regards,
Jim

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Jim W

08-22-2002 18:00:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dimensions for a Hood retainer in reply to Jim W, 08-22-2002 17:56:27  
Well that drawing sure didn't work - there are supposed to be spaces between all the angled parts...I'll send you this by email.
JIm



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Phil (VA)

08-21-2002 07:21:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Dimensions for a Hood retainer in reply to Douro Bob, 08-21-2002 04:15:43  
Go under "Tractor Photos" in column at left and search for "ferg" and you will get some pics. I have a pic of a TO-30 with a bumper in there, as do others I'm certain. I'm not sure if the measurements on the TO-30 are the same as for your tractor or not, but I would guess they are.



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