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Diesel Ferguson 35 hard to start

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Wal Arnot

11-27-1999 17:32:08




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I have a 4 cylinder diesel Ferguson 35. It refuses to start with the starter but will start readily when towed and run all day.I have had the injectors serviced which made no difference and Aerostart sprayed in the air filter makes no difference. Compression seems reasonable. I have heard these referred to as the "hard to start" model. Any advise would be greatly appreciated.




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stevan

12-12-2000 11:29:54




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 Re: Diesel Ferguson 35 hard to start in reply to Wal Arnot, 11-27-1999 17:32:08  
I have a Sept 1958 MF FE35, with a standard motor co. 4 cylinder engine and it starts easily enough. starting procedure:
switch on heater for at least 1 minute my tractor uses the CAV thermo start fitted on the air intake manifold, as original equipment. When it is so warm you cannot hold your hand on it start turning over engine with only a small amount of throttle as tractor fires increase throttle and keep starter engaged. If it fails to start after 10 seconds of starter repeat process and it should burst into life on the second attempt.

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adam

05-26-2000 08:49:52




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 Re: Diesel Ferguson 35 hard to start in reply to Wal Arnot, 11-27-1999 17:32:08  



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adam

05-26-2000 08:53:42




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 Re: Re: Diesel Ferguson 35 hard to start in reply to adam, 05-26-2000 08:49:52  
i have one that is just the same it will only start with a tow



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Mike from Onario

01-31-2000 10:21:48




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 Re: Diesel Ferguson 35 hard to start in reply to Wal Arnot, 11-27-1999 17:32:08  
Yup join the club, I don't even try to start mine in the winter unless i have a gallon can of ether, I know a Massey dealer who knows of a couple of tractors with the same motor and an amish man i know used to have a Standard 23C diesel power unit and none of these motors start easy. Just the way they are but a good running motor, when you are trying to start it try some WD-40 rather than ether because the ether dries out the cylinder walls and causes excessive wear on the rings, my rings are worn so bad from the ether that when the tractor starts you can't see the stering wheel through the cloud of black smoke.Good luck with it.

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Euan McMillan

07-30-2000 11:26:36




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 Re: Re: Diesel Ferguson 35 hard to start in reply to Mike from Onario, 01-31-2000 10:21:48  
Fergie 35 "Hill" Tractor- I leave mine at the top of a hill in summer so starting is sometimes a solo event!! I have heard that if you drill the head and install "Heater Plugs" she will start all right! Best of luck



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Jon

12-15-1999 18:05:03




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 Re: Diesel Ferguson 35 hard to start in reply to Wal Arnot, 11-27-1999 17:32:08  
'm an Australian (Victoria) so at least I can be on the same wavelengh as
you - I don't think we will ever see a block heater in Australia!

I don't really have too much trouble starting mine. I have always used the
Aerostart (ether) to start it. My airfilter riser pipe is joined with a
rubber hose, clamped at one end and not at the other so I can pull it off
and squirt the aerostart down the air cleaner.

Depending on the newness of the can and the air temp it will take just a
tiny squirt or a long squirt with the engine turning over. I haven't tried
to do it prior to starting, but I will give it a go. Now that its summer
it should work.

I now put my throttle to about where it would be to get my 540rpm when I'm
starting it.

All I can think of is that it is having trouble getting the fuel through!?!

I still have plenty of problems with the tractor but it is cheap to run and
generally cheap to fix.

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Tim (UT)

11-29-1999 14:25:45




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 Re: Diesel Ferguson 35 hard to start in reply to Wal Arnot, 11-27-1999 17:32:08  
I have a '59 MF TO-35 with the 4-cylinder Standard Motors diesel engine. Yep, she's a hard starter. I have the 4 glow plugs in mine, but two of them are shorted out...

Solution? Just buy a few cans of starting fluid (aka: ether) and give it snort into the air intake before you start it. In fact, my tractor has ad the rubber hose that goes from the air intake to the space under the dash removed just for such purposes.

In the summer, one snort does it. Keep in mind that you have to crank this engine a long time (5-10 seconds) after it's started to fire - don't worry, the starter is designed to do this.

In the winter, I give her a coulpe of snorts and then stand ready to give a "booster snort" if she starts to slow down while she warms up.

I've never had to pull start mine - can't - I'm single and don't have anyone to drive the other tractor! I have run the battery down a few times, though...

Tim

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Jack in NB

11-28-1999 03:11:38




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 Re: Diesel Ferguson 35 hard to start in reply to Wal Arnot, 11-27-1999 17:32:08  
Hi Wal -

They are hard to start, but run forever. Our old girl had probably 5000 hours, and the crank was still standard size.

The glow plugs (4) on later models, or the thermo-start mounted in the intake manifold on the earlier models help starting if they are working.

A block heater, or heater in the intake hose from the rad (easier to install), is almost guaranteed to kick it off. We had a 200 watt heater in the hose, and a half hour at 10 deg F, 10 to 15 minutes in mid-summer works great.

They run $15 to $30 Cdn here from auto parts stores, but they're 120 v. I suspect you're 240 v in Au; they should be available at that voltage.

Hope this helps. It's a GREAT tractor!

Jack

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Seán Ó Ceallaigh

01-03-2002 13:43:59




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 Re: Re: Diesel Ferguson 35 hard to start in reply to Jack in NB, 11-28-1999 03:11:38  
My 1956 Standard 23C diesel starts easy enough. You must have a good big heavy duty tractor battery, no car batteries please, and it must be fully charged; I keep mine in the shed and charge it on the charger from time to time.
You have to give it 1.5-2.0 mins on the intake heater then start to crank. If the battery still has enough juice left to give it a good fast crank, she's away first time even in winter.
Don't use ether it will burn your pistons.

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