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TEA20 starting problem

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Bill

07-10-2003 19:24:06




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Recently had carb, starter motor rebuilt, new battery installed. Did all this after tractor quit running due to carb leaking excessive gas. I have spark but darn thing won't start. I have no idea what to do now.
Help, I need advice/suggestions not very good at trouble shooting. Owned tractor for 3 years, no problem till now.




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Ken

07-15-2003 19:00:42




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 Re: TEA20 starting problem in reply to Bill, 07-10-2003 19:24:06  
Bill on the carb their is a valve on the front Some carbs have it on the bottom of float bowl turn it in until it bottoms then turn it out turn & a half or so more or less see if will fire up forgot about that if it will start you can set it so it will run under full throttel ken



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ken

07-14-2003 17:41:12




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 Re: TEA20 starting problem in reply to Bill, 07-10-2003 19:24:06  
Bill Did you turn the gas valve on at the tank counter clockwise to turn on . Ken



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Bill

07-14-2003 18:19:18




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 Re: Re: TEA20 starting problem in reply to ken , 07-14-2003 17:41:12  
Ken thanks for the tip. I did check the gas valve and its OK. I have fuel in the carb because carb drain plug drips gas when I open it slightly.

Appreciate your response.



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James, UK

07-11-2003 02:01:30




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 Re: TEA20 starting problem in reply to Bill, 07-10-2003 19:24:06  
OK,

Engines need three things at the right time to work, fuel, spark, and air, so step by step:-

1 Do your plugs get wet after trying to start the tractor? If so, that's good 'cos fuel is at least getting to the right place.

If not, check fuel lines for blockages and flow, check there is nothing obstructing the manifold.

2 Is it nice fresh fuel in there?

3 Are you trying to start on gasoline, or paraffin by accident?

4 Are the plugs wired up in the correct firing order (1,3,4,2 for a Standard engine - is it the same for a Continental?)

5 Is plug #1 wire on the correct position on the distributor cap i.e. number one cylinder TDC on compression stroke?

6 Have you got the wire for plug #1 on plug #1 at the front of the engine?.

7 Is your air filter clean, with the correct amount of oil in the bottom? too little oil will make the mixture weak (even on full choke) and they can be a beggar to start.

Well, it's some stuff to check for a start, anyway.

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Bill

07-14-2003 18:30:47




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 Re: Re: TEA20 starting problem in reply to James, UK, 07-11-2003 02:01:30  
James, I don't know if you received my reply but thought I better post it again to make sure.

All of your seven points were checked. Every thing OK with exception of gas on plugs, no moisture is evident. I'm going to pull carb off and check manifold for obstruction.
Checked carb drain plug and gas drips out when valve is opened slightly. I just assumed carb was OK since it was just re-built. Mechanic who re-built carb wants me to bring tractor in but he's to far away(80 miles one way).
Thanks for your help!

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James, UK

07-15-2003 02:02:57




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 Re: Re: Re: TEA20 starting problem in reply to Bill, 07-14-2003 18:30:47  
You say gas 'drips out' - what happens if you open the drain valve all the way?

You should get a continuous stream of gas - anything less and you need then to:-

1 Disconnect the fuel line at the carb, and see how much flow you get (is it the carb that's the problem in other words)

2 If poor flow, check rest of fuel line, filters in bowl, and fuel taps.

3 If good flow, check float valve in the top of the carb for partial blockage.

In all flow tests, let the gas run for two minutes minimum - you needs good flow for that time to be sure.

Manifold should be a last resort check - if it was only the carb that was rebuilt, and you refitted it, there is no reason why the manifold should be blocked, right?

When you reassemble the carb to the manifold, use a good smear of gasket sealer and two gaskets if you got 'em (or use a cereal packet to make another one) - these engines do not like sucking in extra air at that joint - it will totally louse up your carburation and can also stop it from starting.

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Bill

07-24-2003 10:09:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: TEA20 starting problem in reply to James, UK, 07-15-2003 02:02:57  
James/Ken

I put some gasket sealant on connection between manifold and carb. re-tightened and tried to start. Still didn't start so checked spark plug. No evidence of gas, plug was dry. I get steady stream of gas from drain on carb. Also, there is gas evident at the choke.
What do I do now? Carburetor is made by Zenith.



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Bill

07-22-2003 14:05:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: TEA20 starting problem in reply to James, UK, 07-15-2003 02:02:57  
James:

Thanks for additional suggestions, just got back into town so will check out carb and let you know.

Happened to talk with mechanic who has experienced some problems with Zenith carb.'s. He was encouraged to just replace carb with new one because Zenith carb re-bilt kits can't fix apparent warping with float. Not ready to go that route yet. Apparently the Zenith carb for TEA 20 are very hard to find.

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Ken

07-15-2003 19:12:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: TEA20 starting problem in reply to James, UK, 07-15-2003 02:02:57  
James do you suppose the venturie in the carb is in upside down is that possible to
put in that way on them .You hit on a lot good points to check out Ken



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James, UK

07-16-2003 00:05:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TEA20 starting problem in reply to Ken, 07-15-2003 19:12:17  
Ken
I don't know if it's possible to put the Venturi in upside down - I've never tried to do it :)

But thanks - it's only simple fault finding stuff though.



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James

07-14-2003 17:53:52




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 Re: Re: TEA20 starting problem in reply to James, UK, 07-11-2003 02:01:30  
Appears my problem may be with re-built carb because no moisture is evident on plugs. Every thing else you outlined in the seven points is OK!

Thanks for the tips.



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