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lets talk 3 pt stabilizer bars

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Nick

09-16-2003 13:03:45




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Here's the deal. I have a to20 and had a horrible time with the original(?) stabilizer bars. Even though most of the implements i needed to use the stabilizers with had very similar spacing between the lift pins, I still had a terrible time getting the stabilizers on some of them.

I purchased two new adjustable stabilizer arms from Speeco. The catalog description stated they were correct for a to20. Maybe I don't see something obvious, but the new bars are worse than the old ones.

To clear things up... The original(?) bars were flat iron and attached to pins mounted through a bottom plate suspended from the underside of the axle where the fender bolts went through. The new bars are actually tubes with adjustable length similar to a top link. One end has a circular in plane with the shaft, while the other end is bent by about 30 degrees.

Here is my question. The right side botom plate has a ball and socket hole as well as the pin described above. Was the to20 designed to use only one stabilizer and was it intended to use the ball and socket? What are the pins for? What is the single ball and socket for?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Nick

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Jon

09-24-2003 09:54:38




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 Re: lets talk 3 pt stabilizer bars in reply to Nick, 09-16-2003 13:03:45  
The socket under the right axle is original. It is used when you hookup a rear mounted sickle mower.



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john(UK)

09-17-2003 13:40:18




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 Re: lets talk 3 pt stabilizer bars in reply to Nick, 09-16-2003 13:03:45  
You can use one stabilser bar but it depends on what you are doing, if its heavy work obviously you should use two. make sure that the pin on the bracket under the axle is directly opposite the pin the tractor link arm is mounted on (some brackets hav more than one hole on them) also make sure that it is Category one dimensions that you are trying to fit it to, if its a homemade linkage on the implement it may be wrong width and you would have problems fitting them. What we used to do was fit lower links first, then lift implement slightly so you can swing it slightly across the tractor and fit the stabiliser bars using the movement to ease the bars on. Dont know what the ball joint is..must be some implement that has been fitted at some time....just make sure about the pins on the brackets though that they are directly opposite the link arm pins.

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Jerry/MT

09-17-2003 18:04:51




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 Re: Re: lets talk 3 pt stabilizer bars in reply to john(UK), 09-17-2003 13:40:18  
John, Thanks for the info regarding where to place the pin on the axle mounted bracket. I just bought a stabilzer set for my TO-30 and it has five holes in the axle bracket. I was wondering which one to use. Thanks again. Cheers



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john(UK)

09-18-2003 11:21:48




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 Re: Re: Re: lets talk 3 pt stabilizer bars in reply to Jerry/MT, 09-17-2003 18:04:51  
Hi Jerry, Yes it can be a little confusing if you dont know, it was ok in the days of the TE and TO's because there was only one hole but now they try to use same bracket on a number of different tractors so the bracket is now full of holes.



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jimbo

09-17-2003 17:43:33




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 Re: Re: lets talk 3 pt stabilizer bars in reply to john(UK), 09-17-2003 13:40:18  
Yo John,

Thanks for the tip. Too simple. Raise the lift arms slightly before installing the stabilizer bars. mmmm Sometimes they go right on and other times they are a bear.

jimbo



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john(UK)

09-18-2003 11:26:34




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 Re: Re: Re: lets talk 3 pt stabilizer bars in reply to jimbo, 09-17-2003 17:43:33  
Hi, Yes just lift the arms slightly and you can swing the implement laterally across the tractor it does make it easier to fit the stabilisers, but as you say they can be a pain at times. If you have homemade linkage it may not be quite the correct dimensions and that will make it harder too.



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Ray,IN

09-16-2003 19:59:52




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 Re: lets talk 3 pt stabilizer bars in reply to Nick, 09-16-2003 13:03:45  
I use one bar(cat.1). Using two stabilizer bars does work, though alignment is much harder. My TO30 is all original and has the under axle bracket w/ pin on both sides, however the pins are threaded with a convex face nut. The nut isn't as handy as a linch pin but it works. I can't speak on the ball/socket you have.



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Jay

09-16-2003 19:52:43




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 Re: lets talk 3 pt stabilizer bars in reply to Nick, 09-16-2003 13:03:45  
Sounds like you need an I&T Manual. It will tell you exactly what it should be. I think the ball is incorrect.

Try Moore Tractor, they do a good job 800-754-9545



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Joe

09-18-2003 19:00:26




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 Re: Re: lets talk 3 pt stabilizer bars in reply to Jay, 09-16-2003 19:52:43  
Something that works really well with stabilizer bars is to convert one end of the bar to a hook by cutting out one side of the hole that goes on the pin under the fender(make your cut as small as possible--just big enough to allow the pin to slide through the cut). You can then hook the stabilizer onto the under-fender pin from behind the tractor by slipping it over the pin instead of having to climb under the tractor to pull and insert the linch pin. I've used stabilizer bars this way for years and it is much more convenient to put them on and take them off.

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