Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Harry Ferguson Tractors Discussion Forum
:

Ferguson TO-30 Rear Hydraulics

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
Bill McAnally

11-03-2003 20:13:10




Report to Moderator

I recently acquired my grand dad's TO-30. She runs great, but the problem that I have is the that the rear hydralics are very weak. They will lift moderate weight (150#) but will not lift the blade or shredder. Fluid is full. Any ideas?

Thanks




[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
phil fenner

11-06-2003 11:44:36




Report to Moderator
 Re: Ferguson TO-30 Rear Hydraulics in reply to Bill McAnally, 11-03-2003 20:13:10  
It was mentioned that blown gaskets could be your problem, but the TO30 uses "O" rings to replace those paper gaskets that were blowing out in the TE/TO20/9n pumps. There are a number of possibilities that could be causing your problems and some are obvious by looking in the side covers, but some are not. I had two valve chamber castings that had small cracks that were leaking oil under pressure but could not be easily seen unless the oil was drained to a low level and even then it was very subtle. Hope that is not the issue, but many times the pump accumulated water and was left out side where freezing weather caused total breakage of the cast iron or subtle cracks. Total breakage of course would render the pump totally inoperable.Had that experience too!

Phil(WA)

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
john(UK)

11-09-2003 08:05:26




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Ferguson TO-30 Rear Hydraulics in reply to phil fenner, 11-06-2003 11:44:36  
Phil WA If you read what I said again you will see I made no mention of gaskets being blown on the hydraulic pump. I referred to the gaskets on the lift cover and the pump base. The pump was fitted with "o" rings we know but who was to say it had the original pump fitted so "leak" was sufficient.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Phillip J. Fenner

11-10-2003 18:23:17




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Ferguson TO-30 Rear Hydraulics in reply to john(UK), 11-09-2003 08:05:26  
Peace, John. Your comment about a gasket blown under the work cylinder prompted my comment as in the 20 series, paper gaskets were used.

Phil(WA)



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
john(UK)

11-11-2003 11:20:14




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Re: Ferguson TO-30 Rear Hydraulics in reply to Phillip J. Fenner, 11-10-2003 18:23:17  
Indeed they were Phil. Really all you can do is just generalise on here because of the age of the tractors anything may have been changed in that time,(as I have found out in the past) so to state specifically can cause even more confusion when they open it up and its not as we say. Anyway Phil...happy troubleshooting



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
phil fenner

11-11-2003 11:48:50




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ferguson TO-30 Rear Hydraulics in reply to john(UK), 11-11-2003 11:20:14  
John, I have found that when you really think you know the situation, somebody will find an exception so one must be careful in his assertions. And as you say this often leads to confusing advice.

Phil(WA)



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
john(UK)

11-11-2003 13:37:42




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ferguson TO-30 Rear Hydrau in reply to phil fenner, 11-11-2003 11:48:50  
How very true that is.....lol



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Dennis

11-04-2003 17:53:50




Report to Moderator
 Re: Ferguson TO-30 Rear Hydraulics in reply to Bill McAnally, 11-03-2003 20:13:10  
Bill,

Should you find you need any parts to repair the hydraulics, I have everything here relating to the hydraulics on a TO 30.

Dennis



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
john(UK)

11-04-2003 12:34:00




Report to Moderator
 Re: Ferguson TO-30 Rear Hydraulics in reply to Bill McAnally, 11-03-2003 20:13:10  
Could be Hydraulic pump needs overhaul or that there is an internal oil leak. Remove one of the round side covers and with the engine running and the lever at the top of the quadrant with an implement on the linkage, try to see if here is a leak from the top inside, right under the seat is the lift cylinder if there is a leak from the rear of it, it could be piston rings or cylinder worn, if you have a leak from the front of it it could just be a gasket blown under the cylinder. if the leak it at the front right hand side of the housing, again its a gasket blown,You could have a worn hydraulic relief valve too, this is screwed directly into the Hydraulic Pump. If you can get a hydraulic test gauge check the pressure, it should read 2050psi in good condition If you want more info, post here again.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Gary-Miss

11-04-2003 18:23:07




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Ferguson TO-30 Rear Hydraulics in reply to john(UK), 11-04-2003 12:34:00  
I have a TO30. Hydraulics were weak on it, also. My business is tractor repair. Go ahead and buy the lift repair kit. Same kit that overhauls the 8n and 9n Ford tractors. Also, buy the changeover piston that uses an O ring rather than the three steel rings. BE CAREFUL with the old piston. The steels rings will cut your fingers to the bone. Pull both side covers off and disconnect the "singletree", the control valve, lift the top cover off and put the kit in it. On the pmp itself, you have to kind of "wiggle it out of the hole. By the way, you have to pull the PTO shaft to the rear before you start. It passes through the pump. Theere are two 5/8 head bolts on top of the pump. Remove both of these, the the caps under them. There are springs under these. These poppet valves have to slide freely on their guids. I have found very few that the pumps were worn out on.Most of the time, water in the housing has caused these valves to stick. Clean the entirepump unit with mineral spirits and put it back together. Make certainyou drain the housing under the transmission, under the hydraulic pump and under the differential. These are all together, but, you have to drain all three to get all of the crud out. Ford went to hydraulic oil rather than the 80 weight years ago on the Nseries and since this is a positive displacement pump abd with the O ring changeover, I would recommend it. We lift a 6 ft buch hog with no problem. Good Luck.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy