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Hyd pump part question

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Paul Ferguson

01-01-2004 21:52:20




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Ok heres another question to pick everyones brain....A month ago I had to remove my Hyd pump(from my 1951 TO20) because I thought I had probs,but it turned out to be something else altogether...Now when I removed it I broke this piece towards the back that goes between the two control armsat the bottom of the pump(I think thats what they are) ,it has a spring and plunger assy on it..Wow I hope Im describing it right..Anyways I bought a new one from my local mech..(35 buks worth)..Now comes the fun part of installing it between the two rod arms after the pump is in place, you have to go through the two side covers..What have you used to spread the two arms apart enough to get this in ..I thought of making a small turn-buckle assy to do this...Just a tip for anyone doing this in the future...REMOVE this BEFORE dropping the pump....Thanks again in advance...paul

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Gregg S Corcoran

01-04-2004 12:55:36




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 Re: Hyd pump part question in reply to Paul Ferguson, 01-01-2004 21:52:20  
Just pulled my TO-30 hyd. pump out for a good cleaning, and inspection, I either broke the "wire" called the valve drive or it was already broke, the partsman where I shop, told me this was not available any more, and that it was not really needed. I want to find one and put it back in, any one got a carcass thats willing to part with this item? 181 162 M91 is the part #, connects to the little "barbell" that is the topic of many discussions. thanks, Gregg

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phil fenner

01-05-2004 15:35:27




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 Re: Re: Hyd pump part question in reply to Gregg S Corcoran, 01-04-2004 12:55:36  
There were a number of improvements made to the pump for the TO30 and one of these is the oscillating control valve. These are "added" parts and I would think if you removed all the parts that were "added", you would be back to the TO20 config and the pump would work. But I think you can buy these new from a number of "catalog" parts guys. I suspect this feature was added to prevent control valve stickiness/wear patterns.

Phil(WA)

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Gregg

01-06-2004 18:19:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Hyd pump part question in reply to phil fenner, 01-05-2004 15:35:27  
Thanks for the update, I just located what I need, close by. Gregg



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Jeff in Illinois

01-02-2004 05:38:19




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 Re: Hyd pump part question in reply to Paul Ferguson, 01-01-2004 21:52:20  
I cut off a piece of paint stir stick and notched the two ends to hold it in place. That would hold the spread till I got the arms in place. Kinda difficult but not impossible. Have fun...



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marlowe

01-02-2004 04:48:27




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 Re: Hyd pump part question in reply to Paul Ferguson, 01-01-2004 21:52:20  
it is no fun but with small hands on a lot of luck you will get it also i use the hole of the drain plug. this is what we call the wish bone and i tell all to remove before removing cover good luck



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Paul Ferguson

01-02-2004 07:42:17




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 Re: Re: Hyd pump part question in reply to marlowe, 01-02-2004 04:48:27  
Thanks everyone for the advise, and oohhhh what fun this is:))))



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phil fenner

01-02-2004 12:27:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Hyd pump part question in reply to Paul Ferguson, 01-02-2004 07:42:17  
Paul, as one of the previous commenters said you can go through the drain hole. I used a large scewdriver to push the fork arm on the remaining "T" handle ball after first putting one of the "balls" in its respective fork arm. Really very easy. All those instructions that tell you to go through the inspection holes are the worst way to do it unless you have to re-assemble with oil still in the pump housing.

Phil(WA)

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paul ferguson

01-02-2004 21:27:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Hyd pump part question in reply to phil fenner, 01-02-2004 12:27:19  
Hey I finally got it back in ..Used a short piece of 1x2 to spread the arms apart..Tried to loosen the pump drain plug, but it wouldnt budge and I wasnt gonna force it either..Anyways tahnks again for everones help...Paul



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