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TE 20 Four or five foot bushhog?

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Bill Boegemann

04-03-2004 15:31:54




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I am about to purchase a bushhog . My TE 20 runs fine but for its age ('48) I don't feel its the strongest puppy in the litter. What is the original Horsepower rating of my tractor and can it handle a five foot bushhog ? It comes with an overrunning feature on the drive shaft. Can I get some advise on this??




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Jeff-oh

04-05-2004 05:06:35




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 Re: TE 20 Four or five foot bushhog? in reply to Bill Boegemann, 04-03-2004 15:31:54  
Bill

Your TE-20 will handel a 5 foot BH just fine. I keep up with 15 acres with my '48 TE-20 without problems. 2nd gear is about at high as I go. Mainly for just getting bounced around as my field is not all that flat.

The Overrunning feature is known as an OCR, (Over-Running Clutch or Over-Riding Clutch) The purpose it to only allow force to be delevered in one direction. Your PTO is directly linked to the transmission. Thus with high momentum implements, i.e. bush hogs, The energy stored in the whrilling blades will be transmitted into the drive train propelling the tractor forward. This happens even if the transmission clutch is depressed and the breaks applied. The safety concern of having the tractor driven forward when commanded to stop should be obvious.

This is where the OCR comes in. It has splines in it that only engage when the PTO is driving the Bush hog. When the power is taken off the PTO and the rotational speed of the Bush Hog takes over, then the OCR harmlessly clicks away, turning and it does not transmit the energy forward.

Comments on limiter chains, postion control etc: The TE-20 does not have position control. This is a pasive system that maintains the 3-point at a specific height. Now, you set the the height of the 3-point and as you cannot perfectly hit the neutral point the lift will drift up or down slowly as you mow. To maintain a constant position (mower height) there are a few options. they are as discussed below limiter chains, and secondly an add-on position control. The position control is very easy to make and plans are currlently being offered Free by e-mail by Rick in a posting string below.

Where in the world is yout TE?
Jeff in so. Ohio.

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Bill Boegemann

04-05-2004 19:31:40




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 Re: Re: TE 20 Four or five foot bushhog? in reply to Jeff-oh, 04-05-2004 05:06:35  
To Jeff Oh In the world, my TE 20 is located in Lancaster Calif. I wish it had position control but that is one thing I learned AFTER i bought it. Jeff,I was cautioned about the weight of a five foot BH lifting the front end to the degree that you loose good steering control. Have you ever encountered that? One more question, what is the original rated horsepower?



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Jeff-oh

04-06-2004 14:54:23




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 Re: Re: Re: TE 20 Four or five foot bushhog? in reply to Bill Boegemann, 04-05-2004 19:31:40  
Weight of bush hog lifting front end... MAA-LAR-KEY. Not a problem. Mylift will pick the mower clean off the ground with no lift of the front wheels at all. I have a heavy framed 5 footer.

The lift will pick up 1000 lb. Also the lift is only carrying half the weight while mowing. The other half is carried by the rear mower wheel.

The TE-20 was tested to be in the 25 HP range give or take a few. That is actual HP delevered to the ground not the B.S.-HP riding lawn mowers quote.

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Peter Harn

04-03-2004 18:50:38




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 Re: TE 20 Four or five foot bushhog? in reply to Bill Boegemann, 04-03-2004 15:31:54  
I bought a five footer 3 years ago after reading the archives. It covers your rear wheel span and my 1948 TE20 Fergie (rebuilt engine) works fine in 2nd gear with the rpm's at a medium to high speed in tall grass. As long as your careful and go slow your tractor will handle it. We do a fair amount of mowing fence-lines and tree rows on a 12 acre farm. We are going to put some extra wheels on the front sides of the bush hog to help with the heavier weight of a 5 footer. If you don't have a lot to mow a four footer would do fine too.

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steveormary

04-04-2004 12:44:53




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 Re: Re: TE 20 Four or five foot bushhog? in reply to Peter Harn, 04-03-2004 18:50:38  
Bill;

Your TE-20 should handle a 5 ft. bushhog just fine. As you have no position control on your hydraulics you will have to use limiter chains to keep the bushhog at a set hieght.

steve



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Bill Boegemann

04-05-2004 19:42:03




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 Re: Re: Re: TE 20 Four or five foot bushhog? in reply to steveormary, 04-04-2004 12:44:53  
Steve: Can you give me an idea on how you set up limiter chains to control BH height. I plan to do a reasonably level two and a half acre church property and I dont want to run it into the ground. Thanks Bill



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Dan

04-08-2004 05:26:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: TE 20 Four or five foot bushhog? in reply to Bill Boegemann, 04-05-2004 19:42:03  
Why don't you just get a finishing mower, it sets on the ground, and does a lot better job of cutting than a bushhog. Not much difference in price either.



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steveormary

04-05-2004 20:45:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: TE 20 Four or five foot bushhog? in reply to Bill Boegemann, 04-05-2004 19:42:03  
Bill;

Now you are testing my memory. I just looped the chain over the top link yoke on the tractor and at the ends of the hitch arms where they attach to the BH pins. Also be carefull if you raise your BH to full height. You may bend or damage the PTO drive on the BH.

steve



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Bill Boegemann

04-04-2004 16:56:57




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 Re: Re: Re: TE 20 Four or five foot bushhog? in reply to steveormary, 04-04-2004 12:44:53  
Thanks for the input and the heads-up Steve and Peter



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