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Tractorfix

11-12-2004 15:18:49

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My 52 Ferguson TEA has a bunch of plugs and ports in the lift cover and back end. Are any of those ports direct pump pressure? I know the angled one on in the right front corner of the sump is after the touch control. I need to find a port that is upstream of the touch control. Any help appreciated!

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tractorfix

11-13-2004 18:22:27

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Re: Hydraulic Ports in reply to Tractorfix, 11-12-2004 15:18:49

That's what I thought. Thanks for all your help!

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John (UK)

11-13-2004 05:46:22

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Re: Hydraulic Ports in reply to Tractorfix, 11-12-2004 15:18:49

There are no ports that supply pressure without going through the control valve first.The Control Valve on this pump is on the suction side so everything has to pass through the valve first. If you trying to get pressure without holding down the lift arms you wont get any as the link arms rise it shuts off the pressure. Is that what you are trying to do, if you need more help email me at fergusontractors at hotmail dot com If you explain more we can give help in more detail.

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lonestarjeff

11-16-2004 18:47:56

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Re: Hydraulic Ports in reply to John (UK), 11-13-2004 05:46:22

John:

I was reading your post above & was wondering how the remote hydraulics worked using the dump wagon, since the auto-hitch requires bringing the lift arms up.

Jeff

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John (UK)

11-17-2004 11:34:16

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Re: Hydraulic Ports in reply to lonestarjeff, 11-16-2004 18:47:56

When you use an auto-hitch it lifts the trailer ok but stop short of shutting off the pump. In other words it doesn"t quite lift the linkage all the way. The auto-hitch is the best way of doing anything with external power on these tractors,there is no danger of bending anything that you may use to stop the links going full height so its safer and we also used to use the hitch for carrying a ballast weight that you can easily pick-up and drop if you then want to use the trailer or spreader. I have a picture if you want it.

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lonestarjeff

11-17-2004 12:08:40

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Re: Hydraulic Ports in reply to John (UK), 11-17-2004 11:34:16

Thanks John, I have pics from you last month, very helpful. I am getting ready to build one pretty soon from the pics you sent me & from another member of this forum on your side of the pond. I"ll send you progress pics after I get started if you"re interested.

One question about your post above, if the auto-hitch doesn"t allow the lift arms to reach the top & you move the quadrant lever up too far, the straps & pins have to take the load?

Jeff

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John (UK)

11-17-2004 13:18:08

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Re: Hydraulic Ports in reply to lonestarjeff, 11-17-2004 12:08:40

Yes thats correct but they will take the load of a fully laden trailer so its no problem BUT if you leave the lever in the UP position it will keep blowing the safety valve which is a NO, NO as soon as you reach the maximum height and the hitch locks-up you must move the Control lever to the bottom of its Quadrant. All you do is raise the lever to the top, wait for the hitch to lock then lower the lever right down. Yes please send pics, I am always interested in what you do.

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lonestarjeff

11-17-2004 13:45:04

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Re: Hydraulic Ports in reply to John (UK), 11-17-2004 13:18:08

Of the plans I"ve made for my version of the auto-hitch, I fear the weakest element will be the "pick-up straps". I was planning to use an extra set of 3-point stay-straps, adjusted to the proper length, & then fixed by welding. Not sure if that will hold the load or not. Do you know what size stock the originals are made from?

Jeff

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John (UK)

11-18-2004 11:11:26

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Re: Hydraulic Ports in reply to lonestarjeff, 11-17-2004 13:45:04

Sorry I don"t know the size of the steel stock they used, it was thicker than the stabiliser bars (sway bars) and it was about 2" wide. I know the length is very particular, as a friend of mine over here, his company manufactures a copy of the hitch and he told me they had a lot of problems with the length of those bars.

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lonestarjeff

11-18-2004 13:12:25

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Re: Hydraulic Ports in reply to John (UK), 11-18-2004 11:11:26

I understand. The length issue is why I was going to use the adjustable stays. I was going to assemble the unit on the 3-pt w/ the stays semi-snug, raise the lift arms to the "just right" height, tighten down the stay bolts, pull the stays off & weld"em.

Good in theory, but I may have to use"em as patterns for a heavier set.

Jeff

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John (UK)

11-18-2004 13:43:07

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Re: Hydraulic Ports in reply to lonestarjeff, 11-18-2004 13:12:25

I am sure you are absolutley right in thinking that, I think that the problem occurs with that last little bit of the lifting as it comes up onto the lock, the hook has to be high enough to make sure that the trailer isnt able to jump off on rough ground. It sounds like you are going to have some fun with this and burn some late night oil. Please let me know how you go with this I think it will be interesting....John

PS just reading it again, you say lift it to just the right height, have you not got the locking part of the hitch or are you thinking of carrying it on the hydraulics????? I don't like the sound of that.

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lonestarjeff

11-18-2004 15:47:42

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Re: Hydraulic Ports in reply to John (UK), 11-18-2004 13:43:07

I am planning a "simpler" type of locking device since the cam-type lock on your original is more complicated to fabricate.

I"m doing something similar to the assembly on a reciever hitch; 2" square tube sliding(or telescoping)inside a 2 1/2" square tube w/ a 5/8" hitch pin thru both to lock it in the "up" position. The smaller tube is welded to the yoke, & the larger welded to the cross bar to form the "T". What do you think?

Jeff

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John (UK)

11-19-2004 11:37:05

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Re: Hydraulic Ports in reply to lonestarjeff, 11-18-2004 15:47:42

Yes sounds fine to me, should be a good job when its done. The later hitch was like the one you are considering making, that had a pin through it, albeit a spring loaded pin, but the same idea and it was much stronger than the original type, it was made because of the higher horsepower tractors becoming available.

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Rob H

11-12-2004 18:13:41

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Re: Hydraulic Ports in reply to Tractorfix, 11-12-2004 15:18:49

I don't believe that there are any pressure ports available other than the one in the bottom of the sump.
I've asked this same question of all the old tractor guys in my area.
You mention that you need a plug upstream of what you call the touch control. (I assume you mean the quadrant control?)
If you chain down the lift arms, and place the quadrant control in the lift region, you will have full pressure at the sump plug.
Does this help you?
Rob

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steveormary

11-12-2004 20:37:22

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Re: Hydraulic Ports in reply to Rob H, 11-12-2004 18:13:41

tractorfix;

There is a couple of ways to get pressure without tying down the lift arms. I did a procedure on my TO-30 but couldnt tell you how or what I did. I had pressure to run a loader and by turning a valve I could use the three point. But couldnt have pressure to both at the same time.

steveormary

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