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Barry from Stir

04-01-2005 07:46:21




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Good Morning Everyone. I hope I dont get shot for bringing this topic up again, but here goes. This position control devise that everyone keeps talking about, be it the Zane Thang, or other makes. For the life of me I cant understand how it works. The literature I have read says it installs in about 10 minutes with just a few tools.They also say its very easy to make one. Can someone out there explain to me in simple detail how it works, how you hook it up, etc. It is suppose to keep the 3 point hitch at what ever height is selected. Is this done by an hydraulic hose hooked up somehow? I have seen the plans , but cant make any sense out of them.Thanks as always, Barry

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gshadel

04-01-2005 11:50:12




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 Re: Position Control in reply to Barry from Stirling, 04-01-2005 07:46:21  
Barry,
I got a "Thang" back in '99. Been real happy with it. The main difference between the "Thang" and the other home made positioners is the "Thang" is already made, just install... 10 minutes is about right. If your handy, got the tools, time, and materials you can make your own positioner like some of the other guys have done.

The basic idea behind most of the position controllers is to link the control lever(next to your seat), to the lift arm on the 3pt hitch, with a rod or something similar. So when the lift goes up, it pushes the controller lever down, when the lift goes down, it pulls the controller lever up. That keeps the control lever in the "sweat spot" to hold a certain height, and automatically moves the control lever for you to compensate for the lift drifting up or down... so it stays right where you set it. Rig it up so you can easily adjust the rod length to change your desired height of the hitch. A very elegant control mechanism, it works super.

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jeff-oh

04-01-2005 11:48:05




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 Re: Poistion Control in reply to Barry from Stirling, 04-01-2005 07:46:21  
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Barry,

There are basicly three versions of position controls availilable for the N's and fergies. They all do the same thing in slightly diffenent ways.

The three systems are:
The Fergy Positioner -~$80 from an austrailian outfit.
The Position Control you can make for ~$20.00 (Pictured above and many photo's in the Parts and Pieces Gallery Do a search on position control)
and
The Zane Thing- Made by Zane Sherman down in Georga. Pictured in the Parts and Pieces Gallery and labled unknown position control. Basicly a rod and two clamps.

The position control basicly wors like this...

As you know if you move your control lever up and aft. The lift goes up... and move the control lever forward then the lift lowers.

The right side lift arm and control lever are right next to each other. Thus if you tie the two together with some hard linkage then you create a feed-back loop for control.

Example... The 3-point lowers... the lift arms rotates down pulling on the control lever moving it aft. (control lever moves aft... commands the lift to rise...)

Example 2:... The 3 point rises... The lift arms rotate up pushing the control lever forward. (control lever moves forward.... commands the lift to lower...)

Thus position control. As the lift drifts with time it automaticly moves the control lever to command the lift back to the origional position.

Check out the photos and the plans.

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