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Bill Brox

08-01-2005 14:06:57




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My "new" TEA 20, which has not been willing to start yet, I took off the bonnet/hood today and emptied the radiator and block. It was coolant in there, but very very little glycol. It holds about minus 5 to minus 8 centigrades. And, the place it has been standing in the winter, it easily gets down to minus 25 once in a while during wintertime.

So, why was there 5-6 liters of coolant still in there.

The tractor was sitting very downhill, at an angle of maybe 25 deg. So, most of the coolant has been in the radiator and front of engine.

And, still the radiator holds water... this sounds strange to me.

If the block is cracked, where would it normally crack on a TEA 20 with Standard engine.

I guess I need to open the oil plug and drain the engine oil, to see if there is any water.


Bill

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John (UK)

08-02-2005 04:30:25




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 Re: Really Scary. in reply to Bill Brox, 08-01-2005 14:06:57  
Normal place for a crack is around the block drain tap on r/h side. If the system wasn't full it could be that there was enough room for the slush/ice to expand without doing any damage, if this is the case think yourself very lucky.



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Bill Brox

08-02-2005 07:46:29




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 Re: Really Scary. in reply to John (UK), 08-02-2005 04:30:25  
Thanks John, but how about the coolant in the oil pan that I found this morning, half a pint or so... 2-3 desiliter. And how about the radiator ?

I have heard I think long time ago that the Standard motor had a tendency of cracking between first and second cylinder and between third and forth cylinder in the bottom so the coolant drained down and into the crankcase. Does that sound familiar to you ?

Yes John, if I get out of this without any serious damage... I am very lucky.


Bill

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John (UK)

08-02-2005 08:21:34




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 Re: Really Scary. in reply to Bill Brox, 08-02-2005 07:46:29  
Yes they can crack there if they really freeze but from what you wrote earlier I thought that there was no water in the oil pan. To say they had a tendency to crack is perhaps a bit strong, usually they give little trouble unless they are exposed to extreme temperatures. The cylinders are in pairs so that there is reinforcing between 2 and 3 and this provides the strength for it not to crack just at that point normally, but the weakest points are between 1 & 2 and 3 & 4 so if it freezes that is where it will crack. As for the radiator, I would think you need to get it pressure tested to make sure. I don't suppose you will be much different to the rest of us when it comes to luck, but I will keep my fingers crossed for you anyway.

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