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TEA20 questions

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aaronb2002

12-12-2005 20:27:52




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msg post: Hello all
Got a TEA20 Ferguson tractor Gas 6v, have some questions.
1. Starting, The key does not turn over the engine, If i want to start it I have to jumper from the battery to the starter. Will run perfect once started. What do I need to look at to resolve this?
2. Gears, It will not go into any gear ... In fact the shifter feels as if there is no gears. Am I missing something stupid? or is there something in the transmission that needs repair?
3. Is there a boosting procedure from a 12v that needs to be followed should I ever need to boost it.

any help would be appreciated, Never owned a tractor before.
thanks Aaron

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aaronb2002

12-13-2005 06:41:44




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 Re: TEA20 questions in reply to aaronb2002, 12-12-2005 20:27:52  
Thanks For the reply
Well thats good to know that the shifter has to be in the S position to start, unfortunately it wont go into that spot, when I move the shifter around as if to put it into the gear it will only go in the smallest amount, just enough to tell there is a gear there, but when the shifter is let go, it will move back into neutral
If i put in the clutch and move the small lever on the left under the seat (isolator?) then release the clutch i can move the blade up. Then I move it back FWD and release the clutch and the engine idles down, but still no gears.

thanks again

Aaron

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Bill Brox

12-13-2005 08:09:09




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 Re: TEA20 questions in reply to aaronb2002, 12-13-2005 06:41:44  
Hi there.

The key has nothing to do with the start, you only turn the ignition on, like you do on a car. Then, to engage the starter, you press the clutch and push the gearlever to the right and then forward, where the "S" is on top of the gearbox. When the gearlever reach a certain position, the starter motor will engage and the engine will start.

The lever you talk about under the seat on the left side, actually it is coming out of the left inspection cover on what is called the "center housing" is to engage the PTO shaft that comes out of the tail end of the tractor. On this shaft, inside the centerhousing the hydraulic pump is located, and when the PTO shaft is not rotating, the hydraulic pump is not rotating either, and you can not lift anything with the 3 point linkage. But you can lower an implement you have raised before. Once you engage the PTO shaft, you engage the pump too, and you can lift and lower the implement as much as you like.

Now, to the transmission. On the lower end of the gear lever, it is supposed to be a cover of sheet metal to prevent water and dirt to enter around the gearlever ball and finaly enter the transmission too. Just above the lower edge of the cover there is a pin that goes throug the gearlever and housing around. If this ball is broken, like on my TED 20, the gear lever can be rotated, and it can be lifted up some, and enough to get out of the hole where it issupposed to be in. If this is the case, you can turn the gearlever around, and also it will not engage any of the gears.

To remedy this, I will suggest that you loosen the 2 nuts which holds the plate that is located on top of the transmission where the gear lever goes through. When that is done, you can take the gear lever out, maybe you have to pull a bit, but it should come loose.

Down there you will see and understand what is supposed to happen, and you will see where the little endball on the lowest part of the gearlever is supposed to go.

Try this, and let us know what you find.


Bill

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phil(va)

12-13-2005 05:51:00




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 Re: TEA20 questions in reply to aaronb2002, 12-12-2005 20:27:52  
Lester answered part of your question. Another part was the booster procedure from 12 volts. Here's how you do that. Make sure tractor is out of gear (very important). Hook jumper from 12 volt battery to top post of starter (it really doesn't matter which side of the 12 volt battery, but on 6v I usually use the negative side just to be consistent with the normal positive ground of the tractor). Turn on key. Take jumper from other side of the 12 volt battery and touch it to a good ground on the tractor. You may get a some spark, but not too much normally. The starter should turn over quickly, and if the key is on and other items are hooked up correctly it should start. This bypasses the coil and other ignition parts and thus saves them from being damaged by the 12 volt battery. Do not hook the two batteries together. This process is documented in the archives several times on this site. As for the tranny problem, that could be a number of things and as Lester said we don't have enough info to help.

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Lester Elwood

12-13-2005 04:57:12




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 Re: TEA20 questions in reply to aaronb2002, 12-12-2005 20:27:52  
Hi Aaron Welcome to the world of old tractors, hope you have as much fun as the reast of us. To start this tractor you have to move the gearshift lever as far to the right as it will go and lift up on it and forward with it and it will engage the starter,yes it starts with the gear shift lever. There should be an S on the top of the cover for the shift configuration, thats what it stands for. Its a saftey feature hat Ole Harry cameup with. As far as the shifting into other gears im not sure what your problem is without looking at it. Maybe some else in here as an idea.If you have anyother questions feel free to email me. Im always willing to help. Good Luck Lester

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John (UK)

12-13-2005 13:57:51




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 Re: TEA20 questions in reply to Lester Elwood, 12-13-2005 04:57:12  
From your description it could be that the gear lever has come out of the selectors in the gearbox due to wear. Unfasten the two nuts at the bottom of the gear lever and look inside, there are three rails with "blocks" on them and they should all be in a straight line making one long slot, move any one of them into line with the others using a small pry-bar, once in-line drop the gear lever back into position and fasten it up. You should be able to find the gears by then and your start position. post again if you still have trouble

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aaronb2002

12-13-2005 20:04:14




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 Re: TEA20 questions in reply to John (UK), 12-13-2005 13:57:51  
Thanks for the ideas Guys
Will have a look at it this coming weekend.



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