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TEA20 -- FOLLOWUP TRANNY ISSUES

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Aaronb2002

12-16-2005 16:10:55




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I put a msg up last week about my TEA20 Tranny not shifting into any gear.
So as advised I removed the gear shifter, and the ball is on the bottom of the shifter, it sits in between 2 rails, which i assume move fwd or backward depending on what gear you go into.

unfortunately the rails do not move forward or backward on either side of it, all tho I did not want to push to hard. There seems to be alot of sludgy grease in there tho.

The previous owner left a note for me saying that during the last winter he was not able to shift the transmission until the engine had ran for 20-30mins.

I started the Tractor and let it run for 40 mins But it still does not shift.

Do you think I should add some fluid to see if i can loosen it up? Whats the transmission fluid?

Do you think I should get a bigger pry bar and try to move them?

What do you guys think I should do with this?

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John (UK)

12-17-2005 05:59:56




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 Re: TEA20 -- FOLLOWUP TRANNY ISSUES in reply to Aaronb2002, 12-16-2005 16:10:55  
As Bill says there are 3 rails in there and the 3 selectors that the gear lever fits into should all be in a row so it will be in neutral. Usually they don't stick really hard but depends on how long it is since it was used and just what is in the oil. Try to move the 3rd selector into line with the other two and that should solve your problem but if it wont move with a reasonable amount of force with a pry bar then as Bill also says it will be a case of removing the gearbox from the tractor. Just remember that you should not use excessive force on this. It may be that you need to turn the gearbox while you try to do this as you could have some gear teeth end on to others and that is preventing it moving.Try again and let us know what you find then we can make a judgement on what to do next. The transmission fluid is the oil in the gearbox which should be 15W-30 Multi-grade and changed every 12 months. mail me at fergusontractors at tiscali dot co dot uk and I will send you a picture of what it should look like at the bottom of the gear lever in the box.

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Bill Brox

12-17-2005 02:15:05




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 Re: TEA20 -- FOLLOWUP TRANNY ISSUES in reply to Aaronb2002, 12-16-2005 16:10:55  
Well, as you see there is 3 rods down there. The one to the left is for Start and Reverse, the one to the right is for first and second, and the one in the middle if for third and fourth gear.
As you also see, on the rods you have the piece of iron where the little ball on the gear lever goes down to. These pieces are secured to the rod with a screw, and out of the sight you have the shifting forks. These are also secured to the rods with a similar screw.

Here is what I want you to observe.

If you put a prybar in the rails, can you move them any at all. I mean, just a little, can you see a movement on the rods at all.
Because if you can't, the rods are stuck in the aluminum housing, the transmission housing. However, if you can see a tiny movement there, but it stops, then it is the sliding coupling that is stuck.

No matter what is stuck, it will in worst case mean you have to open the transmission to get it loose.

Note, if you pry to hard you may move the shifting forks or the piece with the rail you are looking down at on the rod, and then it needs to be re-adjusted. But I can not say how much you can pry until they slide on the rod.

I would have emptied the transmission for oil, if it looks as bad as you say doen there it can be water and you definately want to get rid of that.
If it is rust on the sliding couplings, I have no idea how to free that, I mean you can not fill the entire transmission with WD 40 or whatever. Maybe filling it with plain diesel fuel could be a solution. But, if it is the rods that is stuck you may need to plit the tractor between the transmission and centerhousing, and take off the steering box. Then it is possible to loosen the screws that secures the shifting forks and the rail pieces, and maybe use a hammer on the end that sticks out of the transmission in the rear end, to see if they loosens up. If you get them loose then, you will need to remove the rods completely and clean out the bores, and clean the rods and then mount it back again and adjust it.

Maybe John in UK has some to say about this, and also a different way of doing it.


Bill

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