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Patrick Mitchel

02-09-2006 16:36:24




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Ahwile back I solicited some advice on keeping my mower deck down and was told to place the deck on 4x4's and adjust the top link until the front raised slightly. This is not working and I am still having trouble with the deck raising up on it's own. Any ideas?




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Jeff-oh

02-10-2006 07:06:33




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 Re: TO30 Draft control in reply to Patrick Mitchell, 02-09-2006 16:36:24  
A note on Marlow's method for setting the mower height... (this is the method you are using)

He states that the top link attachment to the mower must be ridgid. i.e. does not move/rotate. A lot of mowers have a top link attachment that will take tension but will pivot if pushed on.

The top link must be allowed to put compression on the control spring.

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Jerry/MT

02-09-2006 18:06:21




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 Re: TO30 Draft control in reply to Patrick Mitchell, 02-09-2006 16:36:24  
Does the lift control lever stay in a fixed position off the neutral position when this happens? If it doesn't, the cork friction disc at the lever needs adjustment or is just plum wore out and needs replacement.



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Patrick Mitchell

02-09-2006 18:41:50




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 Re: TO30 Draft control in reply to Jerry/MT, 02-09-2006 18:06:21  
The lever is set at approx 3/4 from the top position and if it"s moving it"s not very much. If I hold the lever and watch the mower (which makes it nearly impossible to mow) I can make some adjustments before the deck starts to rise. But it"s like I have to slow down to let the weight of the mower pull itself down. At this position I"m more or less dragging the mower rather than pulling it at a desired height. I will take a look at that friction disc. Also, it doesn"t seem to make much difference how long or short I set the top link. The price to pay for being a novice...

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John (UK)

02-10-2006 14:33:24




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 Re: TO30 Draft control in reply to Patrick Mitchell, 02-09-2006 18:41:50  
If your lever is set to 3/4" and it is still giving problems there is something sadly wrong as at that point it should be lifting the implement. Have you checked the control spring behind the seat does not have any end float in it, you should just be able to turn it with the weight of a plow on it, any end float alters the linkage inside, once that is correct you will also need to reset the control lever, from the raised position the implement should start to lower when the front of the lever is 2-1/4" from the rear of the quadrant. If you need more detailed description on how to do this email me at:- fergusontractors (at) tiscali.co.uk and I will send it.

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patrick mitchell

02-11-2006 09:45:34




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 Re: TO30 Draft control in reply to John (UK), 02-10-2006 14:33:24  
Okay, the 3/4 lever position is from the top, as in nearly bottomed out. not 3/4 of the way up. My problem is keeping the mower at a desired position. With the lever at the stop and the mower on the ground, just about any rpm at the pto causes the deck to rise, without any lever movement, especially if I take off in an effort to mow. At that point it almost certainly will hover causing the pto shaft to contact the mower deck. I have to stop for the deck to settled down. I'm not ruling out the human factor here, but something doesn't quite seem to be right. I will check that spring. When I read the method for setting the mower and draft control way back when, I didn't notice the top link moving that spring. Possibly it is stuck? Please bear with me, thanks for the input

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SandyB@TN

02-10-2006 07:24:25




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 Re: TO30 Draft control in reply to Patrick Mitchell, 02-09-2006 18:41:50  
Patrick,
The whole problem is that the TO-30 does NOT have position control. The draft control was meant for plowing. I would recommend you contact Zane Sherman. Google Zane Thang. It gives a description of the Zane Thang. A position control for the N series Fords and TO-20 and 30 Fergies. Zane is good people. Costs about $100. I had one on my TO-20 and it worked great. You can mess around with chains and other fix-its and you are still never going to be really satisfied with the results. The Zane Thang will install in minutes and as long as your hydraulics are working, you can position your mower/brush hog where you want it. I'm not related to Zane in any way. Just a satisfied user. Hope this helps you out. Sandy

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BCTO30

02-11-2006 23:30:26




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 Re: TO30 Draft control in reply to SandyB@TN, 02-10-2006 07:24:25  
Sandy,

I just read you message about the Zane Thang and I am very interested in this device. I like another TO owner am having problems with my draft control. I recently had my hydraulics rebuilt and have not been able to control my implements since. Even with the position lever centered, the lift will creep up. I am told that this is an agustment problem but I am not knowledgeable enough to agust it myself. Do you think that the Zane Thang can help me? I desperately need control of my box-blade.

Thanks,
BCTO30

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John (UK)

02-12-2006 10:11:26




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 Re: TO30 Draft control in reply to BCTO30, 02-11-2006 23:30:26  
The "Zane Thang" will not cure this fault on your tractor, when your tractor is fixed then you could consider fitting one as it is a great asset.If you email me at fergusontractors (at) tiscali.co.uk I will send you the information you need to adjust your hydraulic system. If you mail me tell me what you need as I may not remember this mail....john



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Patrick Mitchell

02-11-2006 09:54:57




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 Re: TO30 Draft control in reply to SandyB@TN, 02-10-2006 07:24:25  
Sounds like a great solution - I will check it out. Thanx. So, I suppose this is not a new problem?



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Jeff-oh

02-10-2006 11:01:25




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 Re: TO30 Draft control in reply to SandyB@TN, 02-10-2006 07:24:25  
If you really want an add on draft control such as the thang, I can send you plans for a position control that is easily made does the job and is less intrusive than the thang.

email if you want and I will send.



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patrick mitchell

02-11-2006 09:52:47




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 Re: TO30 Draft control in reply to Jeff-oh, 02-10-2006 11:01:25  
Yes, thanks. I would be interested. Appreciate the support.



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