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Bob Weeks

03-27-2006 18:04:48




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Has anyone out there come up with an inventive idea to stop the lift arms from swinging back and forth against the limits of the chains. I wonder if some kind of arm could be attached to the pins where front end loaders are attached. If an additional arm was to form a triangle with the lift arm would it not keep the lift arms from swinging?




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John (UK)

03-28-2006 11:56:16




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 Re: lift arm braces in reply to Bob Weeks, 03-27-2006 18:04:48  
If you mean to stop them swinging when you have no implement on them. You will most likely find that the brackets and chains etc. are worn and would require replacing as they don't do that when new. But Sparex have a Spring with hooks that goes between the link arms and that will stop them swinging. Sparex part # S14615 Lower Link Restraint.



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Bob Weeks

03-28-2006 17:54:27




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 Re: lift arm braces in reply to John (UK), 03-28-2006 11:56:16  
Hi John,
I'm talking about the implement swinging back and forth. If I adjust the chains to reduce the swinging they won't allow the hydraulic to lift full to the top. Yesterday, when I was using my dirt scoop I had to tighten them up one link to keep the corner of the scoop from hitting the tire. When I took one link out, the chains tightened up before the hydraulic lifted to the top of its range.

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John (UK)

03-28-2006 18:14:01




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 Re: lift arm braces in reply to Bob Weeks, 03-28-2006 17:54:27  
Aaah I understand what you are trying to say now, for that you need the stabiliser bars or as some over in US call them sway bars (I suppose strictly speaking they are Anti-Sway bars...lol)
Sparex do what you need:- S160 l/h bracket / S161 r/h bracket / 2 off S177 stabiliser Bar. The brackets fit under the axle below the Fenders, you will probably require 4 new long bolts and nuts for fitting them. The problem with tightening the chain is that you will be blowing the Safety valve all the time you have the scoop raised, if the chains were in good condition and not stretched or worn they would not allow any swinging of the scoop when it is raised. You can get Sparex parts from your local tractor dealer to order or from this site too in the parts section for Ferguson.

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John (UK)

03-29-2006 04:28:40




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 Re: lift arm braces in reply to John (UK), 03-28-2006 18:14:01  
I should have said about adjusting the Stabiliser brackets if you decide to go that way. Fit the brackets but don't fully tighten the nuts. The pins for the stabiliser bars should be fitted directly opposite the pin the lower link arm is attached to on the axle, usually there is more than one hole in these brackets, so be careful to choose the correct one or you will bend the bars if fitted incorrectly. Fit the implement and then the stabiliser bars, lift the implement just clear of the floor, make sure that the implement is central to the tractor, swing it a little if need be to move the brackets, once in central position, tighten the 4 nuts.

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Bob Weeks

03-28-2006 20:30:34




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 Re: lift arm braces in reply to John (UK), 03-28-2006 18:14:01  
Thanks John,
I plan to look into those parts to which you referred. Maybe if I adjust the chains more carefully I can get full lift and minimum sway when they loosen as the implement is lowered.



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John (UK)

03-29-2006 03:59:04




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 Re: lift arm braces in reply to Bob Weeks, 03-28-2006 20:30:34  
There shouldn't be any need to "adjust" the chains, if they are not worn or stretched (which is usual) then they should do their job properly as they are. There should be 7 links in the chain with 2 "D" shackles (one at either end) You will most likely find the chains stretched and the pins and the holes worn which adds up to quite a bit of extra movement which you don't want. The chains should be fastened to the top hole of the anchor brackets at the PTO. Really it's inevitable that the chains will be stretched if you have been running without stabiliser bars and using the scoop because it swings around so much. If you decide that the chains need replacing then you can get these from Sparex, part # S41046 Check Chain assy.and you need 2 per tractor. The brackets if the are worn are part # S42607 (2 per tractor) The eye-bolt that goes through the lower link that the chain attaches to is part #S61019 (2 per tractor)

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Robert Weeks

03-30-2006 18:34:17




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 Re: lift arm braces in reply to John (UK), 03-29-2006 03:59:04  
John,
Once again, I thank you for the time you take to answer my questions.
Bob



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mark from the fort

03-28-2006 06:13:43




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 Re: lift arm braces in reply to Bob Weeks, 03-27-2006 18:04:48  
I'm with Boss Hogg.-Do it the right way.
I have, when I'm between implement changes, just used a rubber "bungi" cord and pulled them together in middle. Definitely a hillbilly fix, but I don't like them moving around either.



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Boss Hog

03-28-2006 04:59:08




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 Re: lift arm braces in reply to Bob Weeks, 03-27-2006 18:04:48  
How about putting a drawbar in the lift arms, and putting a sway bar on one side?

The drawbar is useful for a lot of things...



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Allyn F Davies

03-27-2006 18:25:57




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 Re: lift arm braces in reply to Bob Weeks, 03-27-2006 18:04:48  
Bob.
Contact me on the back burner and I will send a pic with some measurements.

Al in BC



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