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Bob Prentice

06-28-2006 18:35:19




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John(UK) You are an unending source of information and encouragement to we amateurs in this silly hobby of old tractors. We now know how old you are (66),but not much more. Will you tell us who you are and how you acquired so much knowledge? Thanks , Bob Prentice




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Glenn/Calif

06-29-2006 19:11:22




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 Re: John(UK) in reply to Bob Prentice, 06-28-2006 18:35:19  
John has helped more that a few of us both young and old (like me) find our way in the world of Ferguson tractors. Keep it up John we need you.
Glenn in California.



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John (UK)

06-29-2006 09:09:32




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 Re: John(UK) in reply to Bob Prentice, 06-28-2006 18:35:19  
Well J2 posted my old mail so there you have it really, nothing much more to say to that, ask if you want to know anything. I was a Service Engineer and I travelled around in my small truck well panel van actually mostly although I did have a truck for a while but it wasn't ideal in bad weather. I got my worksheets in a morning, got whatever parts I thought I would need for the day from the parts dept. and off I would toddle. Of course here our farms aren't spread as far apart as yours (USA & Canada)but I could do at least 80 miles a day just on one job, I could get through as many as 6 or 7 jobs in a day just depends on what they were.We used to get a lot of battery terminal problems in those days especially on the diesels, so you may only be about 10 or 15 mins doing the work, you could spend more time travelling than working. The beauty of the TE20 and the TO20/30 is that when you take the phone call and the customer told you the problem he was having you knew instantly what was wrong, the problems we did get was that the customer couldn't put it into words what was happening, we get that here occasionally. Mostly I did just the quick repair jobs,(anything less than 3 hours) like clutches, axle-shafts, hydraulics, cooling system, fit lighting sets, if they needed a valve grind we had exchange cylinder heads and we took one off and put another one on so there was as little down time as possible. Also used to fit cabs too and loaders on site, although we did have a guy who did nothing else.We also did a lot of Industrial tractors working in factories, on canals pulling barges(vineyard tractors),a lot of Parks dept. For the bigger jobs we used to take the tractors back to the workshop so it wouldn't tie us up at one place for a long period of time, but if things were slack like winter time we did fit liners and pistons (23c) and grind the valves on site, we could do the same work outside faster than the workshops could and they had all the fancy equipment to help them. We could change a clutch on a TEA in 1-1/2hours comfortably, best time was 1 hour and 5 mins it depends on how easy you can get the engine back in. The diesels were bad as they were very heavy to handle and the Perkins had a very heavy flywheel. We converted a lot of TEA's from gas and fitted a Perkins P3 engine for economy. Once you know the tractor the jobs are easy, I still picture in my mind what I have to do when some one asks me a question. I ran the parts dept. for about five years too. The problems you guys get mostly we didn't get,just some of them, it will be the age telling now I suppose. We had TVO (TED) tractors which are the same as the TEA, but start on gas and then when its hot you switch on to this cheap fuel, that was ok providing they let it get hot if they didn't they would foul the plugs and sometimes they would carry on using it like that till we got there and you would find the oil pan full of this TVO so the oil was like water, you can imagine what that did to the bearings etc. Even back then we had people who wouldn't change the oil in the back end, I suppose it was too costly, well that is what they said, they didn't think it was so costly when we had to change the Pump etc. because they had worn it out pumping all kinds of old crud around and around. Then the 35 and 65 were introduced and they weren't quite the same a little more complex and not as quick to work on.So there you are a very brief potted version of what I have done (very brief)

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charger

06-16-2007 01:56:03




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 Re: John(UK) in reply to John (UK), 06-29-2006 09:09:32  
Very interesting John. I love hearing real life stories like that. You've surely kept me inspired through various jobs. Thanks a million.

PS> I may set aside more than 1.5 hrs for the clutch LOL



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Justin-PA

06-29-2006 20:33:32




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 Re: John(UK) in reply to John (UK), 06-29-2006 09:09:32  
Wow John...you really are the expert...changing a clutch in 1 hr 5 minutes! Your biography was very interesting! Thank you for sharing.



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John (UK)

07-01-2006 06:32:16




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 Re: John(UK) in reply to Justin-PA, 06-29-2006 20:33:32  
Didn"t always do it so fast, it usually took about 1 hour 30 mins. Don"t forget too that it was much easier then than trying to do that now, as these tractors in lots of cases are rusted up and neglected so you can"t get them apart as easily now, and we had the new parts to hand, we didn"t have to pull it apart to see what it needed then have to go looking for spares. But I was fortunate enough to be able to work on them when they were in new or relatively new condition.

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John (UK)

06-30-2006 03:48:30




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 Re: John(UK) in reply to Justin-PA, 06-29-2006 20:33:32  
When you are doing these jobs regularly it is a lot different to doing the odd repair, you get used to what to do and what not to do, it"s just like any other job you get used to doing it so you know the best way to go about it. You had to do it as quick as you could as the customer was being charged for your time which is fine until they get the bill...lol Very often using the Information you got from the factory took a lot longer than we did it, we took short cuts were we could just like everyone does once you know what you are doing. One thing I did hate doing was removing the oil pan from a Standard engine, there are so many setscrews holding them on, and lying underneath on a cold floor isn"t funny.My pleasure to share it.

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Bob Prentice

06-29-2006 17:33:15




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 Re: John(UK) in reply to John (UK), 06-29-2006 09:09:32  
John, Now we KNOW we're talking to an expert, and one who (unlike me) can type. Thanks forthe instant autobiography and continuing advice. Bob Prentice.



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John (UK)

06-30-2006 04:02:45




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 Re: John(UK) in reply to Bob Prentice, 06-29-2006 17:33:15  
Re typing, I do so much on here that you cant help but learn or it would take you hours to do just one reply. I don't only do the replies you see on here, I get a lot mailing me direct now and I also do this on the French and German Ferguson Forums too. I should do more on the British one, they keep asking me but really I don't have very much time. It can take quite some time to answer these questions as the information needs to be correct and I sometimes have to research it before I put it into print, a lot of it I can do out of my head but some things require 100% accuracy, like diesel fuel pump timing and you have to try and write it down so that anyone can understand what I am trying to say and not have any misunderstanding as to what I am saying, that isn't always easy. At the moment I am averaging 175 replies per month to emails, that isn't counting what I do on here and the other Forums, it is just were I am replying to a question sent direct to me. Anything I can do for you....just ask.

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J2

06-28-2006 20:50:21




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 Re: John(UK) in reply to Bob Prentice, 06-28-2006 18:35:19  
I hope John will update us all.... John wrote this about himself in May 2005. (click on link) J2



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Paul F B

06-29-2006 21:20:18




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 Re: John(UK) in reply to J2, 06-28-2006 20:50:21  
John is such a generous person, always willing to help out the troubled and ( if you're like myself when the tractor isn't running right, I'm troubled.) Thanks John! And I'm happy to see this thread of respect to you. Paul F B



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John (UK)

06-30-2006 05:32:42




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 Re: John(UK) in reply to Paul F B, 06-29-2006 21:20:18  
Thank you Paul, that means a great deal to me coming from you.....John



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