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1951 TO-20 steering box

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ken.d.

08-06-2006 16:17:52

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My steering box is leaking from the two arms that come out on each side, are there replacment seals for these?

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Darryl in Tenn

08-29-2006 11:22:17

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Re: 1951 TO-20 steering box in reply to ken.d., 08-06-2006 16:17:52

i am also up against a steering gearbox with side bushings so far gone it not only leaks out all the fluid, but the arms can be seen moving with slop (excess radial play) because the bushings are all but non existent. i dont know what keeps the sector gears engaged and i am concerned for the safe operation of the tractor, as i am getting it running again for a 70 year old friend with no mechanical skills.

if anybody has solved this problem, i would appreciate any tips on a simple way to locally fabricate replacement bushings and get them fitted into the gear box. I am hoping they are simple cylindrical bushings with a light press fit and no special geometry???

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ken.d.

08-08-2006 11:03:49

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Re: 1951 TO-20 steering box in reply to ken.d., 08-06-2006 16:17:52

I would like to thank each and every one of you guy's for all the reply's, When I finish the restoration I will post the repair that was made.

PS. any more idea's will be Welcomed!

Thanks again
Kenny in Oklahoma

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gshadel

08-08-2006 10:49:41

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Re: 1951 TO-20 steering box in reply to ken.d., 08-06-2006 16:17:52

That seal is a common problem on these older TO's. 50+ years service ain't too bad for a leather seal, is it! My steering box seals leak terrible also. One of these days I going to have to do something about it! I seen posts both here and on the N board where guys just pump the gearbox full of grease and say to heck with the seal. I'm leaning that way myself.
Over on the N forum, they are always talking about using J.D. corn head grease to fill the steering gearbox. I think I've seen a couple ads for specialty grease where the grease sticks to moving parts (like gears), flows under shear, but does not flow, or run otherwise. That sounds like the kind of grease to use. Maybe that's what's special about corn head grease? Greasing your steering box isn't necessarily a one way trip either. You can shoot your gearbox up with grease, then rebuild later... much later. You will have a bit of a mess to clean out the grease, then switch back to GL-1 (same as the tranny) after the rebuild, if you like.

George
(Full of ideas, not necessary solutions)

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Al in BC

08-07-2006 20:00:00

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Re: 1951 TO-20 steering box in reply to ken.d., 08-06-2006 16:17:52

Ken. Here in North America you can replace the existing seals with Chicago rawhide seal # 13027.

If you are not concerned by originailty you can take your grinder and grind off the machine fixture that pertrudes on the up bent of the arms. This said the new seals can be intalled and painted, and only you and the real know it all will know. Hope that this is of some help.

Al in BC

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Tim in Tenn.

08-07-2006 19:17:00

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Re: 1951 TO-20 steering box in reply to ken.d., 08-06-2006 16:17:52

Ken, I got my seals and bushings from TIP'S Tractor Parts 1-800-545-9967. I don't have the part #'s. It's been a couple years ago that I replaced them. I'm pretty sure that they were genuine Massey Ferguson parts. The bushing's were not avalible, but they had bushings made from a machine shop. The O.D. was the right size, but after installed the I.D. needs to be reemed to fit your arms. I used a brake hone to do this. You have to remove your steering box in order to remove the steering arms. You might try a Massey dealer to see if the seals are available. TIP'S buys new old parts from old Massey Ferguson dealerships. I've had good luck finding those hard to find parts from them. Good Luck!

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John (UK)

08-07-2006 10:28:35

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Re: 1951 TO-20 steering box in reply to ken.d., 08-06-2006 16:17:52

non of the usual suppliers have these in the US, they are available in UK so someone is bound to have them in US.

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ken.d.

08-07-2006 13:50:05

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Re: 1951 TO-20 steering box in reply to John (UK), 08-07-2006 10:28:35

Thanks John!
I"ll keep looking, if you do have a web site with these on it please pass it on.
Thanks again Kenny

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Ryan (MI)

08-06-2006 20:23:48

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Re: 1951 TO-20 steering box in reply to ken.d., 08-06-2006 16:17:52

I'm also looking for the seals. I know that I'm going to have to replace the bushings too. Thanks in advance!

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