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mikeiowa

03-23-2007 17:26:05

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Going to change out the distributor points, rotar & condenser--points are worn down, but not shot. ---About the distributor being lifted up out of the motor practically out of the block(although it is set back in now). Will be useing the compression method to find compression stroke and where to set the distributor back in--but I'm still wondering why there isnt something to hold the distributor down on the motor houseing, it is supposed to just set freely? i checked the manuel, and with good light looked at the distributor on all sides going into the motor. There does not appear to be any collar or bolt or anything that actually holds the distributor down in place. I lifted the Distributor a couple inces or so to see if anything was missing, or loose , there does not appear to be.
--- Also, with cap on, i can rotate the distributor at least halfway--that doesnt seem right, but im not a mechanic
thanks in advance, mike

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mike a. tenn.

03-23-2007 18:00:01

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Re: Update Friday 3/23 in reply to mikeiowa, 03-23-2007 17:26:05

hey mike...YES! if the TO-30 is like my TO-20, there should be a flat collar around the outside of the distributor that is held on with a tightening screw, then ther should be a bolt that screws into the distributor boss on the block, left side of the distributor shaft, the head of which, locks down that "collar". i hope i'm describing this so you can picture it. your distributor should NOT just float around free like that.

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mikeiowa

03-24-2007 02:24:00

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Re: Update Friday 3/23 in reply to mike a. tenn., 03-23-2007 18:00:01

my tractor is a TO-20, -serial # shows it's probably a 1950(learned that on this site)-Continental Z120A engine . (the comments section here is gone wacky and wont let me write in a regular sentence format-so this entry is looking all chopped up.)
PARTS MANUEL shows a "Clamp assembly,distributor mounting" there is one, but it does not appear to not be doing anything because distributor can be lifted up and put back down. the DEALER SHOP MANUAL says "remove the clamp cap screw and removedistributor " . ---Its frustrating, I do not know what the people who tried working on the tractor did when it was first ran out of oil 2 years ago. They started messing around with it, took off the hood, unhooked radiator and so on, i dont know what they might have been doing with the distributor. ---Before i start takeing parts off, i would like to know what to expect-i can do minor repairs, but electrical is out of my league.
--I have 3 manuels-PARTS MANUEL, DEALER SHOP MANUEL, THE MASSEY HARRIS TUNE-UP FOR THE TO-20(AND OTHER) I bought them thinking whoever the mechanic is that works on the tractor here at the place will have these to refer to --let the previous person working on the tractor go home---now advertizeing at the mechanics school, where i should have gone in the first place. Cant afford a regular mechanic's shop, id sure like to just drop it off at a mechanics,write a check and pick it up running good, that is not to be. thanks

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mike a. tenn.

03-24-2007 05:45:45

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Re: Update Friday 3/23 in reply to mikeiowa, 03-24-2007 02:24:00

hey mike...when you say the distributor can be raised up...does the "clamp assembly" raise up with it? if so, that "clamp assembly" should have a bolt that holds it into the block on the left hand side of the distributor shaft. maybe yours has been broken off in the block? look closely and see if theres a bolt hole with a snapped off bolt stud in it.

if the clamp assembly IS bolted to the block and the distributor shaft is raising thru it, then for some reason that clamp isn't tightening down on the shaft tight enuf. check it out and let us know what you find.

y'know...one of the reasons i go to auctions or stop and look at other fergie tractors either at dealership used tractor lots, or even when i see one along the road at someone's house, is to visually SEE what mine should look like. if you have access to another fergie somewhere, you can learn alot by just checking it out "in person". i saw an old to-20 this year at an auction that had the hood latch that mine doesn't, and it gave me an idea what i'm looking for now. plus...i really enjoy looking over old tractors...it's fun as well as educational, and i've met some pretty nice people that way too when i stop in and ask if i can look over their fergie. just a thought.

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mikkeiowa

03-24-2007 13:59:10

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Sat 3/24 in reply to mike a. tenn., 03-24-2007 05:45:45

good advice, i have seen them but never stopped, i will now. The distributor raises up through the clamp, just the shaft and the distributor houseing comes up--i guess I will pull it on out to inspect the clamp and see why it isnt holding onto the shaft---i thought there might be an offset or some kind of flute for the clamp to hold onto or act as a seat--but that is not the case--the clamp is covered in grease, but all the nuts and bolts seem to be there---hopefully it just needs tightening---seems strange though, when they ran it out of oil 2 years ago, the tractor was running good before the oil went out-i wonder if that distributor was loose and the tractor ran OK anyway?--I dont think they messed with the distributor when they started to take it apart--so if that distributor was loose, would the tractor still run?
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mike a. tenn.

03-24-2007 14:21:31

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Re: Sat 3/24 in reply to mikkeiowa, 03-24-2007 13:59:10

there should be a tightening screw on the right side of the clamp that squeezes it onto the shaft. maybe that screw is missing? if it's there have you tried tightening it?

i suppose it COULD run like that but how it would stay in time i don't know.

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mikeiowa

03-25-2007 06:27:30

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Re: Sat 3/24 in reply to mike a. tenn., 03-24-2007 14:21:31

thanks i will check that to see if it needs tightening-the clamp and tightening screw/bolt is there--i was too unsure to try to tighten it up-now I will do that today at some point and see what happens---will post what i see and results. Will have to do compression test later in the week.
thanks again

im also about the fire up a new digital camera, will have to learn the process of transferring photos onto computer then onto internet--maybey i can use photos in my posts here.

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mike a. tenn.

03-25-2007 06:56:29

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Re: Sat 3/24 in reply to mikeiowa, 03-25-2007 06:27:30

mike...we like pitchers! and yes, a picture is worth a thousand words when trying to describe something. i wanted to post a pic of my distributor for you, but found out the better half had taken the camera with her on her trip.

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