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Ken NB

04-03-2007 09:30:48




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Have found a Ferguson TEA 20-85 at a Massey Ferguson dealer for sale. She looks a bit rough (sheet metal peeling, but no rust & only minor dents) but has new back tires (fronts are no prize), home made but nicely done ROPS, original headlights & rear light, painted 8N colours a long time ago, tight steering box & all links, no oil leaks, starts right up & runs smooth with no smoke or noise, good hydraulics (boosted 225 lb son-in-law up) & brakes work. Other than a bit of required minor TLC, she is mostly original except for dash-mounted starter switch - gear shift switch is either missing or not working. Am more familiar with 9n, 2N, 8N, but in many ways the Ferguson seems better - 12 volts, better rear axel/hub assy., OHV engine, & tilting hood. Looking at the Ferguson registry, most 20-85's seem to be in Canada (as opposed to USA). Didn't think to get S/N but read 20-85's were built from 51 to 53, correct? Is $2200 incl. tax (maybe lower) a fair price? How reasonable/obtainable are parts compared to Ford's? Is there any weak points/problem areas I should look closer at? Thanks.

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John (UK)

04-04-2007 07:02:09




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 Re: Ferguson TEA 20-85 in reply to Ken NB, 04-03-2007 09:30:48  
Parts are available for this tractor. The tractors after 325,001 have a beefed up back axle.
Jack NB said something about the governor being weak, I can't find anything relating to that in your post, but there is no weakness in the governors at all, just make sure they are adjusted correctly, the governors for the Continental and the Standard engine will interchange.That starter switch you should get the original one fitted for safety's sake. If you need any info or help with this tractor, email me at:- fergusontractiors(at)tiscali.co.uk
just tell me what you need....John

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John (UK)

04-04-2007 06:42:56




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 Re: Ferguson TEA 20-85 in reply to Ken NB, 04-03-2007 09:30:48  
20/85 or to give them the correct title TEA20-85 were built from 1951 until the TE20 series finished in 1956



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Jack in NB

04-03-2007 15:55:35




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 Re: Ferguson TEA 20-85 in reply to Ken NB, 04-03-2007 09:30:48  
Are you in NB Canada, Ken?

Jack Wetmore in Fredericton.



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Boyde from Brampton

04-04-2007 05:45:25




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 Re: Ferguson TEA 20-85 in reply to Jack in NB, 04-03-2007 15:55:35  
Welcome Ken. I live in Brampton Ontario, ,but grew up in Moncton, Sunnybrae. Still refer to Moncton as my home.

Boyde from Brampton



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Ken NB

04-03-2007 17:57:02




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 Re: Ferguson TEA 20-85 in reply to Jack in NB, 04-03-2007 15:55:35  
Yes, I"m in Moncton, NB, - Riverview to be more accurate.



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David Beckett

04-05-2007 15:34:33




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 Re: Ferguson TEA 20-85 in reply to Ken NB, 04-03-2007 17:57:02  
hello fellow NBers I am from Sussex and have a TE20 that may come to life soon.
dbeckett@nbnet.nb.ca



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Jack in NB

04-06-2007 03:38:01




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 Re: Ferguson TEA 20-85 in reply to David Beckett, 04-05-2007 15:34:33  
Good stuff, David.

Maybe we should start an NB club!



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Jack in NB

04-04-2007 03:11:18




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 Re: Ferguson TEA 20-85 in reply to Ken NB, 04-03-2007 17:57:02  
Welcome to the site, neighbour!

There is a raft of solid information here - literally a world of experience, with knowledge shared from all continents.

Your tractor is a reasonable price.

I don't know whether the 3 point system on the 20 has position control or not (the ability to lift an implement a few inches and hold it there). That's really handy. The later Masseys do.

We had the fords for a while - nice, but can't hold a candle to the massey 35.

If you can wait, there is the occasional 35 with the Perkins diesel around for under 3K. A lot more tractor for your money. Considerably more power, half the fuel. In my opinion, the best tractor ever made. (we have 4 here at the moment.)

Parts for the 35's are cheaper than the Fords too - particularly for the 3 cylinder Perkins diesel engine. Dunno about the 20 parts prices; most are available. Aftermarket parts are generally cheaper than massey.

If you gotta have a tractor now, go for the 20-85. Post a note asking John (UK) whether the comments regarding the weak governor apply to the UK TE model with the Standard engine, or to the US built TO, which I think has a Continental.

You can fix it if you need to, use it for a while, paint her up, and get most of your money back when you find a 35 with a Perkins!

Best of luck!

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cdmn

04-03-2007 11:40:19




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 Re: Ferguson TEA 20-85 in reply to Ken NB, 04-03-2007 09:30:48  
From my personal experience, everything sounds good at that price, but my first move would be to take the front cover off and renew the governor. The governor weights are a weak point, very fragile, and when they fly off, they cause catastrophic secondary damage to the front end of the motor. $500 damage to the front cover and timing chain, etc. It's just a matter of routine maintenance. It's quite a job to take it apart. Sometimes the front pully is hard to pull off. You have to remove front axle assembly first. Depending on how hard it's worked, probably should do this every 25 years. The replacement parts look even more fragile than the originals.
I hope to get mine back together when spring warms up.

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Bob (Aust)

04-03-2007 15:39:30




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 Re: Ferguson TEA 20-85 in reply to cdmn, 04-03-2007 11:40:19  
Whilst one can't compare prices in a different country, here in Australia TEA20 prices range from US$1,600 to US$3,200 with the median price around US$2,400 for a reasonable machine.

New and used parts are very easy to come by and the price of new parts is very reasonable. A full engine overhaul kit, cylinders, pistons, rings, bearings and gaskets is under US$320 in Australia. A full service manual should be the next thing you buy and set you back around US$20.

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Aikidoforever

04-05-2007 15:38:02




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 Re: Ferguson TEA 20-85 in reply to Bob (Aust), 04-03-2007 15:39:30  
Hello there,
If all is in the condition that you state, I think it"s a good deal. I paid $1,850 for my 51" 20-85, and the engine had a few oil leaks, the back end had a few oil leaks, the three point hitch wasn"t working properly and the battery was crap. After about $700+ in parts and a hell of a learning experience (thanks to John (UK), the old girl is almost the way it should be. I still need to fix the engine oil leaks. But the rear end is tip top including the 3 pt hitch. Good luck, and I hope this helped.
Ivan

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